I assume, from re-reading this whole thread, that Noel is primed with the
knowedge and ready to implement it for the release by now.
I think the outcome of our "debate" was that Noel was going to press ahead
anyway, on the basis that it doesn't require a vote, no vote was called for,
and this won't impact the rest of the project in any way.

Noel?

d.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Greg Stein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 18 December 2002 20:41
> To: James Developers List
> Subject: Re: Release mirroring - let's do the release right
>
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Nicola Ken Barozzi"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Peter M. Goldstein wrote:
> > [...]
> >> The legalese argument simply doesn't apply (there is exactly one
> >> project that currently follows these guidelines, and notification
> >> didn't come from the ASF but rather from a concerned contributor).
> >
> > Bandwidth is not free. We are running on donated bandwidth. You should
> > be concerned too IMO, that Apache resources are not used badly and
> > unnecessarily.
>
> Exactly. To some extent, it is starting to become a requirement that all
> ASF projects follow some guidelines so that they can be mirrored
> properly. No requirement yet, but in six months? I would see it happening
> once the majority are on board and only the folks that *aren't* doing it
> are sticking out like sore thumbs.
>
> If somebody wants to take the time to do it right, then great. It simply
> means that you'll be on board that much sooner.
>
> >...
> >> So, while I may be in danger of beating a dead horse, I veto this with
> >> a -1.
>
> You are *VOTING* with a -1. You CANNOT veto this.
>
> Vetoes are *only* for technical reasons applying to the code. You cannot
> veto procedural items.
>
> Further, if Noel wants to take on the work necessary to get the
> distribution done properly and that delays his other work... so be it. It
> is Noel's time, not JAMES' time. If somebody wants to cover for the
> slippage because Noel is doing something that interests him some more,
> then they are free to do it. But for stuff like this, the JAMES project
> cannot mandate that a person does <this> or <that>.
>
> If a majority of the votes go against the guidelines, then fine. But it
> takes a majority to do so; vetoes cannot stop it alone.
>
> Cheers,
> -g
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