Aaron seems to have nailed what I want to do exactly. It sounds like James is worth looking into to that end. I don't mind a little coding. I'll have to d/l and tinker with it some weekend.
For the record, the mail system at work is Novell GroupWise (sometimes referred to as GroupStupid), and the original messages are forwarded as attachments of an otherwise empty message. Thanks for the answers, -Nathan Williams ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "James Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 8:10 PM Subject: RE: Is James suitable as an email proxy? > > Ah ha! I hadn't noticed the FetchPOP integration. I guess that would be > after 2.0a1. We are still basing our development on 2.0a1 here. That will > probably continue until the JAMES/Avalon codebase settles down a bit and/or > we get the time for the required overhaul. (Our JAMES-based codebase is > becoming fairly sizable and is pretty tightly coupled to a few > implementation-specific JAMES/Avalon features.) > > Cheers > > ADK > > -------------------------------------------- > > There is no magic. > > > > "Noel J. > Bergman" To: "James Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > <noel@devtech. cc: > com> Subject: RE: Is James suitable as an email proxy? > > 12/11/2002 > 09:36 > Please respond > to "James > Users List" > > > > > > > Aaron, > > FetchPOP *is* integrated into James. :-) Danny added it back in > mid-Sept., > IIRC. That is what I was refering to in my message. > > I was thinking that he could use James at work as a better forwarding > agent, > but perhaps he doesn't have control there, and needs to use it at home to > do > the unwrap. In the latter case, if it is a mime-encoded attachment of the > original e-mail, it shouldn't be too bad to code the mailet. > > --- Noel > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Aaron.Knauf@;vodafone.co.nz] > Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 15:11 > To: James Users List > Subject: RE: Is James suitable as an email proxy? > > > > Hi Noel, > > I understood from Nathan's post that his issue was that fact that when he > forwarded his work mail to his home account, the mail that arrived was a > new email, with the old email copied (or attached) into the body. This is > because the mail is forwarded by his mail client, rather than relayed by > his work mail server. If I read him correctly, he wants to basically make > the mail that arrives at his home address look like it had been sent > directly to his home address. This would entail extracting the original > mail content from the body of the fowarded mail, setting the reply-to field > to that of the original sender, rather than his own work address, setting > the subject field correctly, etc. I imagine that all of this will be > specific to the particular mail client that he uses to do his forwarding. > If the original mail is an attachment (or at least some kind of separate > mime part) then it should be fairly simple. It will certainly require a > mailet. > > Of course I could just be imagining the whole thing! :-) > > As for the fetchpop bit, you are quite correct. In fact I had overlooked > the requirement to do the pull from the ISP (which is embarassing, > considering I used to do that kind of thing for a living). This would > actually be a useful thing to build into JAMES. (In fact, I think I'll put > it on my list of projects never to be completed!) > > Cheers > > ADK > > -------------------------------------------- > > There is no magic. > > > > "Noel J. > Bergman" To: "James Users List" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > <noel@devtech. cc: > com> Subject: RE: Is James suitable > as an email proxy? > > 12/11/2002 > 08:50 > Please respond > to "James > Users List" > > > > > > > Aaron, > > He can configure FetchPOP to pull e-mail from his POP accounts, and then > configure James to forward based upon criteria to any number of other > accounts. > > Where did you see a lack of functionality to support his goal? > > Or did I misinterpret? Do you think that he wants to pull e-mail from his > home account, and then strip off the envelope? Perhaps I mis-read his > original message. In that case, you'd be correct. We'd need an "unwrap" > mailet to remove a forwarded e-mail from its enclosing message, and insert > the enclosed message into the pipeline. > > --- Noel > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Aaron.Knauf@;vodafone.co.nz] > Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 14:12 > To: James Users List > Subject: Re: Is James suitable as an email proxy? > > > > Hi Nathan, > > I theory, James is quite capable of doing what you describe. In fact it is > capable of very nearly anything. The question is, how much Java code are > you willing to write? I am not aware of any standard Mailet that will do > what you ask and I doubt that any mail server would have this feature. You > would have to write a mailet that did the job for you. Assuming that you > are comfortable with Java, this is not a difficult task, although getting > your mailet up and running inside James for the first time is typically > quite difficult for newcomers. This list has a web search feature that > should allow you find the answer to most of your initial problems. > > Cheers > > ADK > > -------------------------------------------- > > There is no magic. > > > > "Nathan Williams" > <williams.nathan@bi To: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > gfoot.com> cc: > Subject: Is James > suitable > as an email proxy? > 12/11/2002 07:46 > Please respond to > "James Users List" > > > > > > > Hi, I'm new to this list. I have a long-standing email problem (more of an > annoyance really) and I'd like to know if James could help me around it. > > I have rules attached to my email account at work to forward some messages > on to my personal accounts. It's a crude means of synchronization, but > it's fairly effective. The only problem with it is that forwarded messages > arrive in my personal inbox inside an empty message used for the forward. > I'd like to automatically unpack the forwarded message and discard the > wrapper, but I have yet to find an email client that offers anything that > sophisticated in its rules. > > I'm interested in using James as a proxy between my email client and my > ISP's POP3 server. Is it possible to use James in this configuration? 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