Hi

the environment is Windows 2000 with both the client and James running on
the same box and using OE 6. JDK is Sun JDK1.3_06. I will actually be
deploying on Linux but it's convenient for me to do quick installs/tests on
my win2k box.

Despite the "oddities", I reckon the build I'm now using is good enough for
us to get started with and so I have installed on our Linux server and told
my own Dev team to go to it. I've also asked them to report any issues so
that I can give you feedback.

All the best

Martin

-----Original Message-----
From: Noel J. Bergman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 10 January 2003 16:59
To: James Users List
Subject: RE: NNTP: Nightly Build available for testing


Martin,

Thank you for testing.

What is your test environment?  There is an open bug report when using
James' NNTP support on NTFS.  I am running the server on linux with Sun JDK
1.4.1.  The clients are WinXP with Microsoft Outlook Express 6, Netscape
News and Opera 6.

-- Martin Woolley @ Jan 10, 2003 5:05 --
> - improved from yesterday but still problems

The NNTP code is still experimental, and needs more development work.  As
long as we're making progress, and can identify precisely remaining issues,
that's good.  Harmeet is working on an NNTP protocol test, which would help
identify protocol errors more clearly than testing with a typical news
client.

See: http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?JamesNNTP for current
known status of the NNTP implementation.

> - I am running with the default newsgroups (avalon.dev/user,
james.dev/user).

OK.  I have those, plus a couple I created for testing.

> - I posted 2 messages to the avalon.dev group (first in the list). There
is no
> sign of the messages via the client (OE). I can see the corresponding
files in
> the file system but no indication at all that the group contains messages
from
> the client.

> - I can post to the other three groups, including replies and so far
everything
> works as expected.

Interesting.  I posted to all of my newsgroups, and all of them work.  And
according to a later note from you, they are now working for you, too?

-- Martin Woolley @ Jan 10, 2003 6:37 --

> Retrieving the list of NewsGroups from the server with OE results in";
> 500 Unknown command
> Configuration:
>   Account: localhost
>   Server: localhost
>   Protocol: NNTP
>   Port: 119
>   Secure(SSL): 0
>   Error Number: 500
>   Code: 800ccca2

Would you please go into SAR-INF/environment.xml and change the two NNTP
related entries from INFO to DEBUG?  :-)  I see something similar:

10/01/03 09:46:14 DEBUG nntpserver: Command received: LIST
10/01/03 09:46:15 DEBUG nntpserver: Sent: 215 list of newsgroups follows
  ...
10/01/03 09:46:15 DEBUG nntpserver: Sent: .
10/01/03 09:46:15 DEBUG nntpserver: Command received:
10/01/03 09:46:15 DEBUG nntpserver: Received unknown command  with argument
null
10/01/03 09:46:15 DEBUG nntpserver: Sent: 500 Unknown command

As you can see, after the LIST command was processed, Outlook Express 6
appears to send a blank command.  Neither Opera or Netscape sent that blank
command.  Outlook Express 6 appears to be the cause of the error, but
appears to ignore the error on my system.

-- Martin Woolley @ Jan 10, 2003 6:41 --

> If I start using the latest nightly build, is there any risk of message
store
> compatibility issues when I install later releases?

We're not contemplating changing any message store formats for James v2.
For James v3, I would certainly hope that the NNTP store will be entirely
replaced.  The current one is atrocious.

-- Martin Woolley @ Jan 10, 2003 6:40 --
> Added another group, which alphabetically appears before the first of the
> default groups (the one I cannot see messages in ie avalon.dev). Now new
> messages posted to avalon.dev can be seen (but not my originals). Posting
to
> the newly created group works fine by the looks of things. Most strange.

So does this mean that as of now you are getting messages posted to all of
the accounts?  Are there any files present in your var/nntp/spool directory?

        --- Noel


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