This reminds me of people trying to infiltrate mafia/drug dealers. It takes years, and they are probably asked to do some bad things before they are able to catch the big fishes. At least that's what happening in movies :)
If we try to follow the same principle, some kind of authority should decide to plant infiltrated open relays. They should act as normal open relays from a spammer point of view, deliver the emails (even if its not legal), but giving back important information. I am sure this has been discussed in other places, I understand the non-legality, but when you see the number of open relays, one more will not add too much to the traffic, but if it helps taking legal or technical action faster against big spammers, that may help. But accepting to do so raise some interesting philosophical questions. I wonder how exactly these kind of things happen with other kind of infiltrations? On Mon, 2003-02-24 at 17:44, bill parducci wrote: > unless the spammer is only looking at the SMTP codes (not going into *that* > discussion again :o) the machine is going to have to actually *deliver* the note. at > that point it will be an open relay and will be part of the problem. also, any > spammer worth a darn will have a handful of 'feedback' accounts sprinkled in with > the spam targets to make sure that the process completed (e.g. checking to make sure > that the open relay doesn't stop sending mail--intentionally or not--in the middle > of the job). > > the bottom line is that there isn't a good way to 'pretned' to be an open relay with > the intent of harvesting useful information in my opinion. at most you will be able > to log sites that probe for such bechavior but that can be done on a normally > configured machine. > > there are a number of other ways to attract spam that i believe are more practical. > > b > > Randahl Fink Isaksen wrote: > > That, I believe, is as simple as not requiring the sender to log in and > > not requiring the sender to be in the local network either. I > > accidentally set up my James configuration like this and found my server > > transmitting huge amounts of spam in no time. Often I do not think the > > spammers even care to send a probe e-mail to check that the message > > arrives. Maybe they just bill the clients for the number of e-mails that > > were accepted by the abused servers... > > > > If he is able create some trouble for the spammers in a legal manner I > > wish him the best of luck. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Jerome Lacoste (Frisurf) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CoffeeBreaks --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
