konnichiwa what i wanted to ask exactly was many a japanese verb has two forms, transitive verb and intransitive verb, like atsumeru - atsumaru kesu - kieru
when we use transitive verb i think we use particle WO, with intransitive particle GA. with kesu-kieru (transitive - intransitive) we can make 4 sentences. 1)kaji wo kesu 2)kaji ga kieru 3)kaji ga keshite arimasu 4)kaji ga kiete imasu how those above four sentence are different from each other and in what context we use those forms? mata ne --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], herry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok your confusion is more than just particles. :) > > > denki ga tsuite imasu > > the -te imasu is a progressive form to say you're doing something. > > the above means, "I'm turning on the electricity" > > In my previous post, I said, > > > > > denki wo tsukeru > > > turning on the electricity. > > I thought you were trying to contrast 'ga' with 'wo'. This is not a > proper translation because I don't believe the japanese sentence was > proper. > > tsukeru is potential form of tsuku. any verb that operates on 5 bases > (godan) can be converted to potential ichidan verb by taking the > conditional base and adding -ru. > > tsuku -> tsuke (conditional base) -> tsukeru > > the japanese sentence above should've said: > > denki ga tsukeru > denki ga tsukemasu > > which means "( I ) can turn on the electricity" > > > denki ga tsukete arimasu > > This isn't a proper japanese sentence. It should be > > denki ga arimasu. > > Which means "there's electricity" or literally, "electricity exists." > > arimasu is used only for inanimate things. For animate things, you use imasu. > > watashi no kanai ga imasu > > "there's my wife." > > This 'imasu' is not the same as '-te imasu' above. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/9rHolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Japanese_Language/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
