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I agree, but the first item I ran across was the replacement of the single
lib. I understand the risk involved in replacing a single library and, as is
always the case....esp. with Linux, you have to hack it at your own risk. I
have the trouble box (very weak in the hardware department) running great
with alot of connections, and debug output to the logs for the last day with
no errors or problems with the product that we have here at Epicentric. I
completely agree with you, and again IT IS VERY RISKY INDEED....as the
kernel depends upon the libs, that is why I will always suggest making a
copy of the libpthreads and creating an emergency recovery disk set to copy
the old one back if needed (which any admin should do)......and....ESP...if
your company depends on the box day in and day out.....recognize that you
may have alot of explaining to do if the box crashes. I think the better
idea is to install an updated glibc package, but a blanket approach to
fixing problems is sometimes just as risky (fixing one item but breaking
another) esp. with the way in which MDK and RH seem to be diverging on the
lib path. Does anyone know (or even speculate) as to why the libs were
paired down in the "newest" MDK 6.1 release? My thought was the need for
speed, but it's hard to say. The single (backwards) lib approach may be the
reason why the fix is not working on a dual processor machine.

Thanks for the URLs and advice,

JN

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To: 'Java Apache Users'
Subject: FIX: IBM JVM doesn't run, but Blackdown JVM does onsame
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Hi,

        Last night i continue to investigate the problem of the IBMJDK118
and
Mandrake 6.1 integration.  I've identified it is the problem of the glibc.
After checking the the IBM's newsgroup I suggest in the last message, I then
go to the redhat's mirror and get the lastest glibc related RPMs from Redhat
6.1, they are :
        glibc-2.1.2-11.i386.rpm
        glibc-devel-2.1.2-11.i386.rpm
        glibc-profile-2.1.2-11.i386.rpm
and upgrade from glibc 2.1.1 to 2.1.2 on my MDK 6.1.

        AND IT WORKS!!!

        Now i can run Apache w/Jserv 1.1b3 and Tomcat perfect, without any
crash.

        While I have the Redhat's glibc installed and have my server running
smoothly, I found that Mandrake have built it's own glibc-2.1.2 under
MandrakeCooker!  You can find it in one of the mirrors:

        ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/MandrakeCooker/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS/

        and get:
        glibc-2.1.2-8mdk.i586.rpm
        glibc-devel-2.1.2-8mdk.i586.rpm
        glibc-profile-2.1.2-8mdk.i586.rpm

        I've also tried it, it also works! Of course, i use the Mandrake's
glibc
packages instead of Redhat's from now on, as Mandrake claims that its
packages are optimized for pentinum chips.

        JN:     I suggest you to upgrade the glibc rather than just replace
the
libpthread, it is quite risky.

Have fun!! (^_^)
Punky Tse



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Norris
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 1999 1:36 AM
To: Java Apache Users
Cc: Dean Moses; Seth Ladygo; Danny Stewart; Brian Scott; Brian Slesinsky
Subject: RE: Subject: RE: IBM JVM doesn't run, but Blackdown JVM does
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Hi: RE: The IBM JDK118, MDK 6.1 (marketing release number:), JSDK2.0,
MDKApache_x.x.9, and Glib(s)......etc.:(

        Hi: esp. Mark and Mr..Punky(;)

                Hi: In general....and apologies on my lengthy 1st. message,
but detail is sometimes the key to getting good suggestions via proxy.

Thanks for the replies, nice to know that a couple of other individuals have
an interest in solving what seems to be a sticky
BigBlueJava-possibly-Glibc-maybe-BluishJVM conundrum. I can definitely see
the Glibc connection (no pun intended), but what bothers me is the fact that
most system libraries (.....most being on the side of more) have a reference
to older lib forms & functions (e.g.. strings -v /lib/* | more    ....
will result in a listing that shows the greater % of libs referring back
2.1.1-->2.1-->2.0-->). My understating of GNU/Linux c/c++ libraries is
getting better all the time, but I am not an expert in the area by any
means...soooo, I will post the issues to IBM's Java site and Linux gen
community pages, to see if there are any items I may have overlooked (if I
find anything relevant to the current integration problem, I will post it
here on this thread:) Also, I have looked at the bug reports for IBM (re:
IBMJDK118) and do see a quite a few areas where the bugs could contribute to
what we are seeing here, but I have not subscribed to newsgroups for IBM
(soon to change).

In-the-manyshadesofgrey-conclusion-forthis(sic)reply........I would agree
with the Glibc problem, would also like to know how the supplied
classes(methods...etc) utilize native Linux system calls to open/close and
monitor sockets....as we could have a combination of problems.....which do
seem to point to something which plagues the ongoing genesis of branded
JVM(s).......sacrifice of flexibility/portability for speed.

More later,

JN




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