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It's probably pointless to defend JServ (or Apache or MySQL or Linux or
FreeBSD). Those of us who CAN read text files and follow relatively simple
installation instructions get the benefit of free, well built, well
performing software with the added benefit of all the source code should we
need to implement or fix a necessary capability. Those who cannot, or choose
not to, can spend their money on costly proprietary products from whomever
they choose. It took me a few minutes to set up Apache plus JServ and a few
more hours to get GNUJSP working. I had trouble configuring Apache plus
JServ plus GNUJSP because I didn't have a correct understanding of how the
pieces went together. After perusing the online docs and asking a few
questions on the email lists, I had the whole arrangement figured out and
working very nicely, thank you. And I learned a lot in the process. My
partner and I have this stuff all working very nicely on Intel machines
running FreeBSD and SuSE Linux, and Alpha machines running Red Hat. So it
obviously works. Free, well built, great performance, and all the source
code - not to mention a zillion installations - what more advocacy do we
need?
Just my two cents.
.... Bob Kimble
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Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2000 2:32 PM
To: Java Apache Users
Subject: Re: JRun
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> Alan,
>
> I think that the original poster made a valid point. I see numerous
> complaints about the difficulty to setup and configure JSERV. However, in
> response to this you insult the poster for "not being able to read a TEXT
> document". This type of attitude is rather disgusting, and I do not see
how
> this attitude will promulgate adovacy of JSERV.
Well, reading text files is a must for any serious developer and/or
systems administrator. One must know the technology one uses. Yes,
sometimes things can be *very* frustating, but I believe that should be
taken as a learning experience, not as an excuse for jumping up some
'big brand' easy-weasie product. As Jon stated, you use what better
suits you. The fact that someone gave up JServ simple because he/she
could not install it shows that perhaps this person does not understand
well the intricate relationship between a web server and a servlet
engine. iPlanet is not simpler than JServ. It may simple be better
hidden behind a nice web-interface and automated installation tool, but
it is a complex piece of software. If it was a word processor, fine,
then I agree an easy-to-use wordprocessor is, arguably, better than a
complex one. However, when we are speaking about a development platform
such as Java Servlets, you *must* understand what goes under the hood at
some time. At some point, be it at the beginning of development or after
the application is deployed, problems will show up which will only be
solved by a serious analisys of the interations between browser, web
server, servlet engine, servlets, business objects/beans, any other
middleware and storage. Yes, complex. But if you take your time in
understanding all these pieces of software, then you make both you and
your developer's lives easier.
> regards,
> Joaquin
Regards,
Ulisses Montenegro
SysAdmin/RADIX [http://www.radix.com.br/]
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