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This issue is well documented on the bugsparade at Sun.  They say it is a
Request for Enhancement ... I'd call it a pretty fundamental flaw.

If you want AWT without X have a look at http://www.eteks.com for an AWT
replacement that doesn't need X.

Chris

On Thu, 19 Oct 2000 00:56:23 +0200, Bruno Wenger wrote:

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>I actually had exactly the named X problems with SOLARIS...
>A machine without graphic equipment wont work with awt
>as long as there is no (pseudo) X11 available.
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>Bruno
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>> -----Ursprngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Im Auftrag von Greg
>> Lahens
>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 18. Oktober 2000 21:53
>> An: Java Apache Users; Java Apache Users
>> Betreff: RE: Servlets Rendering to a Frame....
>>
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>> Interesting thing to know... I've been running all of my servlets on
>> Solaris servers with lots of memory and never encountered any of these
>> issues. To me it has always been a simple thing to do..
>>
>> Thanks for the education on how awt.* works on Linux.. I'll keep that in
>> mind if I'm ever doing a site for that OS.
>>
>> -Greg
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>> At 12:09 PM 10/18/00 -0700, Bill Volk wrote:
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>> >Greg wrote:
>> >
>> > > OK. What on earth is this all about? It sounds like you're trying
>> > > to have a
>> > > servlet render graphics to send to a web page or program
>> waiting for the
>> > > graphic?  If this is what you are trying to do, then there's no
>> > > need for X.
>> > > X has nothing to do with it at all. Just use the graphics library
>> > > (awt.graphics???) to draw into a virtual object then gif
>> encode it then
>> > > send the bytes to the response stream...
>> >
>> >Yes, but that doesn't work.  Seems like the Java VM under Linux
>> NEEDS X to
>> >do any rendering whatsoever.  That's what the docs says.
>> >
>> >      When no X11 Display is available on UNIX machines or when
>> GDI resources
>> >are low
>> >      on Windows, it is impossible to compute off-screen images with
>> >      java.awt.Graphics methods, even if your program doesn't
>> need to display
>> >these
>> >      images. Typically, this situation happens for servlets returning
>> >dynamically
>> >         generated images like pies, charts or web counters.
>> >
>> >You can't write to a frame without having X ... or some
>> substitute running.
>> >Yep.  That's the truth.
>> >
>> > > Other than that, I'm not sure what you're asking. Please be more clear
>> > > about the goal you are trying to accomplish, setting,
>> > > environment, and type
>> > > of application...
>> >
>> >We're compositing images on the server to display on the
>> client's web page.
>> >Basically overlays etc...
>> >
>> >Bill Volk
>> >
>> >
>> >
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