on 4/20/00 9:17 AM, Scott Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I think you miss the point.  Cocoon has passed a 1.0.  Now they are
> completly changing everything for a 2.0.  You could start with Turbine or
> Cocoon today and have the same exact problem in 3 months when 'everything'
> looks different.  Anyone who looks at the version number and says 'It just
> isn't ready', should not be using OSS in the first place.  IMHO, if jon
> tells me it is prime-time, then it is. jon runs a business in his
> 'spare-time' (at least he used to), and if he is using Turbine for that,
> then I am sure that he is aware of changing APIs and what that menas to a
> developer using the product.
> 
> Scott Sanders

James said:
> Because >I< don't trust you :-) I don't know these 200+ people using it and
> what >their< needs are.


I agree with Scott.

:-)

James, while you say that you don't trust me, you don't give a reason why
you don't trust me. You never even asked what their needs are. I can tell
you a few of them if you really want to know...

So, what are the reasons that you don't trust me?

:-)

Is it because I have been running this Java Apache project for the last 3
years? Is it because I was one of the people who convinced Sun to Open
Source Jakarta/Tomcat? Is it because I co-founded Clear Ink? Is it because I
co-founded Timestamp.com? Is it because I wrote or helped write
ECS/Village/Town/Turbine/Jyve? Is it because I now work for Collab.Net? Is
it because I'm doing an open source replacement for Bugzilla (using
Turbine)?

:-)

Give me a break that you don't trust me. :-) I'm one of the most open
developers around here. There has been very little of my code that I haven't
given back to the OS community in years!

:-)

-jon

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