Hi Glen,

Thank you very much for your answer.  

Best regards

Oliver Fendt

Siemens AG
Corporate Technology
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-----Original Message-----
From: Glen Daniels [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 11:25 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: question regrading Axis conditions

Hi Oliver,

We discussed the WSDL4J issue in some depth years back, and IIRC settled on
the fact that the CPL is fine in our context - i.e. that Axis is not in fact
a "derivative work" of WSDL4J, but rather simply a user thereof.  I don't
have a pointer to the actual discussions but I'm sure one could be found.

With regard to the Sun stuff, I know that their license explicitly allowed
redistributing the servlet jars, but I don't have any intimate knowledge of
the files you refer to beyond that.  I imagine the Tomcat team has covered
this ground before.

Thanks,
--Glen

On 3/3/2010 9:24 AM, Fendt, Oliver wrote:
> Hi 
> 
> Thank you very much for the response.
> I contacted already the foundation on that topic, but I was pointered to you 
> with the request. We discussed the topic with lawyers but since we got no 
> clear picture we decided to ask you as the copyright holders about your view 
> on this.
> Do you have any opinion about the "SUN" topic (meaning the license attachted 
> to /axis-1_4/lib/servlet.jar/javax/ servlet/resources/web-app_2_3.dtd )?
> 
> 
> 
> Best regrads
> 
> Oliver Fendt
> 
> Siemens AG
> Corporate Technology
> CT T DE IT 1
> Otto-Hahn-Ring 6
> 81739 München, Deutschland
> Tel.: +49 (89) 636-46033 
> Fax: +49 (89) 636-45450 
> mailto:[email protected] 
> 
> Siemens Aktiengesellschaft: Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Gerhard Cromme; 
> Vorstand: Peter Löscher, Vorsitzender; Wolfgang Dehen, Heinrich Hiesinger, 
> Joe Kaeser, Barbara Kux, Hermann Requardt, Siegfried Russwurm, Peter Y. 
> Solmssen; Sitz der Gesellschaft: Berlin und München, Deutschland; 
> Registergericht: Berlin Charlottenburg, HRB 12300, München, HRB 6684; 
> WEEE-Reg.-Nr. DE 23691322
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Jordahl [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 9:32 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: question regrading Axis conditions
> 
> We (the Axis project, formerly the Web Service project) do not believe that 
> the wsdl4j license affects the license of Axis.  Axis 1.x has been embedded 
> in many open source and commercial software packages with no ill effect.
> 
> This might be a good subject to post to the Foundation Legal Discussion 
> Mailing List:
>   http://www.apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html#foundation-legal
> 
> Of course for all things legal, you would have to consult your own lawyers 
> for authoritative answers for your legal situation.
> 
> 
> Tom Jordahl
> Axis 1.x developer
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fendt, Oliver [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 6:22 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: question regrading Axis conditions
> 
> Hi 
> 
> Let me introduce myself, my name is Oliver Fendt I am working for Siemens 
> Corporate Technology and I am in charge of Open Source platforms. Siemens 
> Coprporate Technology is a central function and not developing any product.
> 
> I' have a question regarding the license conditions of packages delivered 
> with Axis.
> 
> Axis 1.4 is shipped with wsdl4j-1.5.1.jar according to the license file which 
> is contained in the lib-directory of Axis too the package is licensed under 
> the CPL 1.0, which is a copyleft license. My question is wether the copyleft 
> effect of the jar file spreads over Axis, or whether you regard Axis not as a 
> derivative work of wsdl4j?
> 
> 
> In this context I have an additional question the file 
> /axis-1_4/lib/servlet.jar/javax/ servlet/resources/web-app_2_3.dtd has some 
> strange license conditions (please see below) which in my opinion are not 
> Open Source compliant and even forbid the redistribution. My question is 
> whether Sun Microsystems had donated this file to the Apache foundation 
> officially and whether there exists a written statement on this issue from 
> Sun Microsystems?
> 
> Btw. Such licensed files are present in Apache Tomcat too.
> 
> Files in Tomcat (5.5.23) which are licensed under the strange Sun License:
> 
> servletapi\jsr152\src\share\dtd\jsp_2_0.xsd
> servletapi\jsr152\src\share\dtd\web-jsptaglibrary_2_0.xsd
> servletapi\jsr154\src\share\dtd\j2ee_1_4.xsd
> servletapi\jsr154\src\share\dtd\j2ee_web_services_1_1.xsd
> servletapi\jsr154\src\share\dtd\j2ee_web_services_client_1_1.xsd
> servletapi\jsr154\src\share\dtd\jsp_2_0.xsd
> servletapi\jsr154\src\share\dtd\web-app_2_3.dtd
> servletapi\jsr154\src\share\dtd\web-app_2_4.xsd
> servletapi\jsr152\src\share\dtd\web-jsptaglibrary_2_0.xsd
> servletapi\jsr154\src\share\dtd\j2ee_1_4.xsd
> servletapi\jsr154\src\share\dtd\j2ee_web_services_1_1.xsd
> servletapi\jsr154\src\share\javax\servlet\http\package.html
> servletapi\jsr154\src\share\javax\servlet\package.html
> 
>  
> 
> Sun Microsystems License information:
> 
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>  
> 
> Thank you in advance for your feedback 
> 
>  
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Oliver Fendt 
> 
> Siemens AG 
> Corporate Technology 
> CT T DE IT 1 
> Otto-Hahn-Ring 6 
> 81739 München, Deutschland 
> Tel.: +49 (89) 636-46033 
> Fax: +49 (89) 636-45450 
> mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>  
> 
> Siemens Aktiengesellschaft: Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Gerhard Cromme; 
> Vorstand: Peter Löscher, Vorsitzender; Wolfgang Dehen, Heinrich Hiesinger, 
> Joe Kaeser, Barbara Kux, Hermann Requardt, Siegfried Russwurm, Peter Y. 
> Solmssen; Sitz der Gesellschaft: Berlin und München, Deutschland; 
> Registergericht: Berlin Charlottenburg, HRB 12300, München, HRB 6684; 
> WEEE-Reg.-Nr. DE 23691322
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