On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Amila Suriarachchi < amilasuriarach...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 1:47 AM, Andreas Veithen <andreas.veit...@gmail.com > > wrote: > >> One last message with java-user in copy: I've created a page on our >> brand new Wiki: >> >> http://wiki.apache.org/axis/Axis2Spring >> >> Please feel free to edit and add your ideas. >> > > Thanks Andreas for creating the wiki an initiating the this work. > > Let me put my view and suggestion first before directly editing the wiki. > > Here the term Axi2 is embeded inside the spring can be elaborated as Axis2 > users spring beans initialised by the spring framework rather than > initialising itself. In otherwords it acks as another plugin[1] to spring > container. > > Why this is important? Indikas' question gives the answer. Spring beans > have all the features available with the spring container and additionally > webservice support. > My question is why this is not important ? Let me explain, We have very broad community one requirement can be very important to some one while it is not much important to some one else . I 'm highly involve with Spring based development for last 3 years and this is a very important feature to me, and I believe I'm not the only one with this requirement , Some people move into different WS-stacks because lack of this feature. As you may know one of the longstanding criticism about Axis2 it it's lack of Spring support [1] [2] [3] . As for now Axis2 is very matured project and there is no large scale development happening, so if people are willing to implement this feature it going to be a value added feature for Axis2 and get rid of criticism about Axis2 Spring support . Some of the framework developers facilitate to utilize their framework features within the Spring context one of the good example out of the WS stack is Castor/Spring integration [6], [7] that targeting spring developers. Some frameworks are designed to be configured and work within the Spring context through the bean definition file Apache Camel [8] and CXF [9] are some of the examples. Some frameworks use a native approach to configure and assemble internal components , further some frameworks provide both of these options as an example SCA spec defined as Java component implementation[10] and Spring component implementation[11]. Axis2 use native approach but alternative spring based approach also a good addition to the project. I don't think Spring-WS is a replacement for Axis2 or CXF [4] ,[5] if you can spend some time with Spring-WS you will realize it. > > We can do this by using existing axis2-spring support by using > org.apache.axis2.extensions.spring.receiversSpringServletContextObjectSupplier > but the configuration is done by using same axis2 xml files. > This what provide by the current axis2-spring module and this is a different use case I don't have a problem about the usability of this use case. > > The proposed project let users to do that as spring configuration files as > well. But still transports, modules and all manged by Axis2 runtime. > > So I suggest first paragraph should some thing like this. > > The goal is to provide Spring integration for Axis2 in scenarios where > Axis2 is embedded inside Spring (i.e. where the Axis2 runtime uses the > spring beans initialized by the Spring container) while keeping the > configuration also witin the spring beans. This is different from the > scenario supported by the existing axis2-spring module, which addresses the > scenario of implementing a service using Spring, while all the > configurations are done using axis2 xml files and initialize the spring > beans by itself. > +1 , this make it much clear. [1] - http://www.coderanch.com/t/224490/Web-Services/java/Axis-Vs-CXF [2] - http://www.predic8.com/axis2-cxf-jax-ws-comparison.htm [3] - http://www.theserverside.com/news/1363958/Axis-Axis2-and-CXF-Surveying-the-WS-Landscape [4] - http://forum.springsource.org/showthread.php?t=60263 [5] - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/297033/which-framework-is-better-cxf-or-spring-ws [6] - http://www.castor.org/spring-xml-intro.html [7] - http://www.castor.org/spring-orm-integration.html [8] - http://camel.apache.org/spring.html [9] - http://cxf.apache.org/docs/configuration.html [10] - http://www.osoa.org/download/attachments/35/SCA_JavaComponentImplementation_V100.pdf?version=1 [12] - http://www.osoa.org/download/attachments/35/SCA_SpringComponentImplementationSpecification-V100.pdf?version=1 thanks, > > I am not still clear about the stanalone mode. If we assume that as letting > someone to start the simple axis2 server > with a spring bean support configuration (i.e configurations in axis2.xml > services.xml) this is not related to the orignal goal. > > thanks, > Amila. > > [1] http://www.developersbook.com/spring/images/SpringFrameworkModules.PNG > >> >> Andreas >> >> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 13:43, Glen Daniels <g...@thoughtcraft.com> wrote: >> > Quick comment, folks - do we really need to be cc'ing java-user for this >> > conversation? If people are interested to this level, I would think >> they >> > would already be on java-dev. >> > >> > --G >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: java-dev-unsubscr...@axis.apache.org >> > For additional commands, e-mail: java-dev-h...@axis.apache.org >> > >> > >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: java-user-unsubscr...@axis.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: java-user-h...@axis.apache.org >> >> > > > -- > Amila Suriarachchi > WSO2 Inc. > blog: http://amilachinthaka.blogspot.com/ > -- Sagara Gunathunga Blog - http://ssagara.blogspot.com Web - http://people.apache.org/~sagara/
