Hi Andreas,

Is your code committed to a new project/sub-project?

On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Amila Suriarachchi <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 7:42 PM, Andreas Veithen <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> All,
>>
>> I've committed the code that implements the proposed design to [1]. I
>> had to do a slight change to points 3.b. and 4, because construction
>> of an AxisService in general requires an existing AxisConfiguration.
>> To get around this problem, I've introduced a factory interface
>> (AxisServiceFactory) and these points now become:
>>
>> 3.b. It will then scan the Spring application context for beans of
>> type AxisServiceFactory, invoke these factories to create AxisService
>> instances and add those to the AxisConfiguration (at the right moment
>> expected by the Axis2 runtime).
>> 4. The Spring components that are used to deploy services
>> (services.xml like, JSR-181, etc.) are implemented as bean definitions
>> that contribute AxisServiceFactory implementations to the application
>> context (so that they are found in 3.b.). This still makes these
>> components self-contained, because the custom AxisConfigurator only
>> looks up AxisServiceFactory instances from the application context,
>> but doesn't need to have any knowledge about how they are created.
>>
>> You can use WeatherServiceServletRunner to run a sample context in an
>> embedded Jetty instance.
>>
>> Please review and let me know if you think that the code is suitable
>> as a baseline for further development. In particular I would like
>> Sagara as well as the people who worked on WSF/Spring to check if the
>> code is OK as a foundation to build the features that these two
>> frameworks provide.
>>
>
> +1. this looks good.
>
> Does spring runtime guarantees that all the namespace handlers get invoked
> before the FactoryBean afterPropertiesSet() methods get invoked?
>
> I think this design assumes that all the AxisServiceFactory (and other
> possbile future factories) has properly registerd when
> springAxisConfigurator get invoked.
>
> thanks,
> Amila.
>
>
>
>
>> Andreas
>>
>> [1] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/axis/axis2/java/core/scratch/spring/
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 14:06, Andreas Veithen
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > After thinking about this a bit more, here is a design that should be
>> > able to take into account the different concerns:
>> >
>> > 1. The ConfigurationContext is stored in the Spring application
>> > context -> makes it easy to get hold of the ConfigurationContext in
>> > the servlet, the standalone ListenerManager and/or clients.
>> > 2. The ConfigurationContext is created by a FactoryBean that relies on
>> > ConfigurationContextFactory with a custom AxisConfigurator -> makes
>> > sure that things are set up in the order expected by the Axis2 runtime
>> > and that the Axis2 runtime has a chance to make the necessary
>> > initializations.
>> > 3. The custom AxisConfigurator is implemented as follows:
>> > 3.a. It will first delegate to an existing one
>> > (FileSystemConfigurator, URLBasedAxisConfigurator or
>> > WarBasedAxisConfigurator, depending on the runtime environment) to
>> > load axis2.xml. Once we have support for all-Spring configuration,
>> > this would become an optional step.
>> > 3.b. It will then scan the Spring application context for beans of
>> > type AxisService and add those to the AxisConfiguration (at the right
>> > moment expected by the Axis2 runtime).
>> > 4. The Spring components that are used to deploy services
>> > (services.xml like, JSR-181, etc.) are implemented as bean definitions
>> > that contribute AxisService instances to the application context (so
>> > that they are found in 3.b.). This still makes these components
>> > self-contained, because the custom AxisConfigurator only looks up
>> > AxisService instances from the application context, but doesn't need
>> > to have any knowledge about how they are created.
>> >
>> > Notes:
>> > - Point 1 does not imply that the Spring configuration will have an
>> > element representing the ConfigurationContext bean. The necessary bean
>> > definition could be added by a bean factory post processor. Also, by
>> > giving a well defined name to the ConfigurationContext bean, there is
>> > no need for explicit references to it in the configuration file; they
>> > would be automatically added by the namespace support. Thus the
>> > existence of the ConfigurationContext as a bean in the application
>> > context would be transparent to the developer.
>> > - Point 3.b. would later be generalized/extended to support modules,
>> > as well as transport declarations and other things appearing in
>> > axis2.xml.
>> > - Stephan's code for automatic deployment of JSR-181 annotated beans
>> > would become inconsistent with the strategy described in points 3.b.
>> > and 4, because it takes already initialized JSR-181 annotated beans,
>> > build AxisService descriptions and adds them to an already initialized
>> > AxisConfiguration. Although this should still work, it is probably
>> > better to make this consistent again by replacing the bean
>> > postprocessor by a bean factory postprocessor that scans the bean
>> > factory for bean definitions that produce JSR-181 annotated beans and
>> > that adds the necessary bean definitions to contribute the AxisService
>> > instances to the application context.
>> >
>> > I will try to translate this design into code to check if it works in
>> practice.
>> >
>> > Andreas
>> >
>> > On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 03:44, Amila Suriarachchi
>> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:05 AM, Andreas Veithen <
>> [email protected]>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 18:56, Amila Suriarachchi
>> >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 2:46 AM, Andreas Veithen
>> >>> > <[email protected]>
>> >>> > wrote:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Devs,
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> In order to get the Axis2-Spring thing started without getting lost
>> in
>> >>> >> endless discussions, I propose a very simple thing as a starter:
>> >>> >> implement a servlet that deploys a JSR-181 annotated bean from a
>> >>> >> Spring application context. For simplicity let's take the Axis2
>> >>> >> configuration from a classic axis2.xml file and also don't consider
>> >>> >> component scanning yet. Note that the code that does the second
>> part
>> >>> >> (JSR-181 annotated Spring bean to Axis service) only takes a couple
>> of
>> >>> >> lines and actually already exists [1]. For the first part
>> >>> >> (implementing the servlet that manages the Spring application
>> context
>> >>> >> and the Axis2 configuration context), there is actually an
>> interesting
>> >>> >> design question that I would like to discuss. Indeed, the three
>> >>> >> existing codebases use two different approaches to manage the
>> >>> >> AxisConfiguration/ConfigurationContext, and we need to select the
>> >>> >> better one:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> In WSF/Spring and Axis2M, the servlet looks for beans of a certain
>> >>> >> type in the application context. In the case of WSF/Spring [2] this
>> is
>> >>> >> a single SpringAxisConfiguration and a single WebServices instance.
>> In
>> >>> >> the case of Axis2M [3] these are the ServiceBean and ModuleBean
>> >>> >> instances present in the context. Note that all these classes are
>> >>> >> framework specific. In both frameworks, the servlet then builds the
>> >>> >> AxisConfiguration and ConfigurationContext instances by translating
>> >>> >> the framework specific beans into Axis2 objects (using patterns
>> >>> >> similar to the traditional axis2.xml, services.xml and/or
>> module.xml
>> >>> >> processing).
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> In my PoC I've used a different approach (Note that it doesn't have
>> a
>> >>> >> servlet yet; only the standalone case is covered): the
>> >>> >> ConfigurationContext is itself a Spring managed bean. Obviously,
>> since
>> >>> >> ConfigurationContext is not a simple JavaBean, this requires a
>> >>> >> BeanFactory [4]. The servlet would then only have to look up the
>> >>> >> ConfigurationContext which is already completely initialized by
>> >>> >> Spring.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > I had some time to go through your sample code. I agree with you
>> that
>> >>> > appropriately usage of FactoryBeans and
>> >>> > Namespace handlers is a better approach.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > But I think binding Configuration context to spring runtime and
>> mange it
>> >>> > using configuration files is not a good idea.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > First of all axis2.xml file is used to load the description
>> hierarchical
>> >>> > things rather than context. And configuration
>> >>> > context is created after creating the axisConfiguration. If you see
>> the
>> >>> > ConfigurationContextFactory.createConfigurationContext it does some
>> >>> > initialisations of modules and transports which should be there at
>> that
>> >>> > time. And also this would confuse users goes from normal axis2 to
>> spring
>> >>> > axis2.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> There are several advantages I see in this second approach:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> * It is more in line with the general paradigms used in Spring.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > I think this is reated to usage of  Factory beans and namespace
>> handlers
>> >>> > rather than whether the AxisConfiguration or ConfigurationContext to
>> be
>> >>> > used.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >> * The standalone (i.e. non servlet) case is easily covered: since
>> the
>> >>> >> ConfigurationContext is part of the application context, it is only
>> >>> >> necessary to instantiate a ListenerManager (the lifecycle of which
>> is
>> >>> >> also managed by Spring via a FactoryBean that gets the
>> >>> >> ConfigurationContext injected): see [5].
>> >>> >
>> >>> > please see here[1] where I have done a poc with using
>> axisConfiguration.
>> >>> > It
>> >>> > is also just a matter of creating a
>> >>> > configuration context and starting the listners.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> * This will also make support for the client side easier, since we
>> >>> >> need a ConfigurationContext as well to create the stub or the
>> JAX-WS
>> >>> >> dynamic proxy.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > yes. possibly but need to figure out with a working code.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> * It would make the implementation of the servlet very easy: just
>> >>> >> extend AxisServlet and look up the ConfigurationContext from the
>> >>> >> Spring application context.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > If you see the AxisServlet it starts the listener manager in the
>> init
>> >>> > method. so need to override that method too. Otherwise it is enogh
>> to
>> >>> > override initConfigContext method.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> * Last but not least, it also implies that the components that
>> deploy
>> >>> >> the services (or modules if we want to support that) are completely
>> >>> >> self-contained. In my PoC, this is PojoServiceFactoryBean [6] and
>> this
>> >>> >> class is only known by the bean definition parser and (indirectly)
>> the
>> >>> >> namespace handler. On the other hand, the servlet itself doesn't
>> need
>> >>> >> to know anything about it. This fact makes the framework much
>> easier
>> >>> >> to extend: if somebody comes up with new ways to deploy things,
>> there
>> >>> >> is no need to change the core; it is sufficient to add a
>> FactoryBean
>> >>> >> and the corresponding namespace handling stuff.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > yes. but no relation to whether we use ConfigurationContext or
>> >>> > AxisConfiguration isn't?
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> The only potential issue I see is that compared to WSF/Spring and
>> >>> >> Axis2M, this approach provides less control (at least out of the
>> box)
>> >>> >> about the order in which things are added to the
>> >>> >> AxisConfiguration/ConfigurationContext, but I'm not sure yet about
>> the
>> >>> >> possible implications of this.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > see the createConfigurationContext I think it assumes
>> axisConfiguration
>> >>> > is
>> >>> > finished by the time configuration context is created. And also I
>> think
>> >>> > this
>> >>> > would make debug the application make difficult.
>> >>>
>> >>> There are indeed three different approaches:
>> >>>
>> >>> * Manage both AxisConfiguration and ConfigurationContext outside of
>> >>> Spring. This is what Axis2M and WSF/Spring do. This will definitely
>> >>> cause the issues I described.
>> >>> * Let Spring manage AxisConfiguration, but create the
>> >>> ConfigurationContext outside of Spring (in the servlet and by the
>> >>> component that creates the ListenerManager in the standalone
>> >>> scenario).
>> >>> * Let Spring manage both AxisConfiguration and ConfigurationContext.
>> >>> This is what I've chosen in my PoC.
>> >>>
>> >>> Since using the servlet and using ListenerManager are mutually
>> >>> exclusive, you are right that as long as the ListenerManager is the
>> >>> only component that requires a ConfigurationContext, the second
>> >>> approach works well. Since the components that deploy services only
>> >>> need access to the AxisConfiguration, but not the
>> >>> ConfigurationContext, we indeed need to check what exactly is required
>> >>> to create a client proxy.
>> >>
>> >> Any message sending requires a configuration context. But I think even
>> for
>> >> that case it is possible to
>> >> register configuration context pragmatically after initialisation and
>> use it
>> >> at the message sending time.
>> >>
>> >> Axis2 specifies axis configuration details in axis2.xml and it creates
>> the
>> >> configuration context after creating the AxisConfiguration. When
>> creating
>> >> the configuration it initialise all the services and modules. There is
>> no
>> >> point in changing that if there are no problems could not solve in this
>> >> method.
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> > And also here are some other things I saw with your code.
>> >>> > 1. It has developed as an axis2 module. I think we need to decide on
>> >>> > this at
>> >>> > first place since project structure has to change accordingly. I
>> think
>> >>> > we
>> >>> > need to put it as a seperate project.
>> >>>
>> >>> Personally, I'm unsure about the right answer to this question. I
>> >>> think someone argued that creating this as a separate project would
>> >>> allow us to have more frequent releases. However, one can also argue
>> >>> that instead of spending our energy in managing the releases of
>> >>> different projects, we should spend that energy to do more frequent
>> >>> releases of the Axis2 core project. Of course we would have to
>> >>> overcome the problem of upstream releases (Axiom, Woden, etc.)...
>> >>
>> >> I think you have missed what Saranga has pointed out. It is not only
>> about
>> >> having frequent releases.
>> >> Axis2 spring will supposed to have a spring based axis2 configuration
>> and a
>> >> service deployment. So it is worth
>> >> to have it as a different project.
>> >>
>> >> thanks,
>> >> Amila.
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> > 2. Why there is a namespace handler to
>> >>> > webServiceAnnotationBeanPostProcessor. I just registered the
>> >>> > WebServiceAnnotationBeanPostProcessor as a bean and it worked. Does
>> this
>> >>> > has
>> >>> > anyside short commings?
>> >>>
>> >>> There are several advantages of using namespace handlers even for
>> >>> beans that are fairly simple:
>> >>> * More flexibility to change the implementation, since backward
>> >>> compatibility only needs to be handled at the namespace handler level.
>> >>> * Using an appropriate XML editor (e.g. the one in Eclipse), you get
>> >>> autocompletion for free. Also, with the appropriate
>> >>> xsd:annotation/xsd:documentation elements in the schema, the Eclipse
>> >>> editor will show the documentation for each tag.
>> >>>
>> >>> > thanks,
>> >>> > Amila.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > [1]
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/axis/axis2/java/core/scratch/java/amila/axis2-spring
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Andreas
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> [1]
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/axis/axis2/java/core/scratch/java/veithen/spring/axis2-spring-core/src/main/java/org/apache/axis2/spring/service/PojoServiceUtil.java
>> >>> >> [2]
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> https://wso2.org/repos/wso2/trunk/wsf/spring/core/src/main/java/org/wso2/spring/ws/servlet/SpringAxis2Servlet.java
>> >>> >> [3]
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> https://axis2m.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/axis2m/trunk/axis2m/axis2m-spring/src/main/java/org/axis2m/spring/servlet/SpringAxis2Servlet.java
>> >>> >> [4]
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/axis/axis2/java/core/scratch/java/veithen/spring/axis2-spring-core/src/main/java/org/apache/axis2/spring/cfgctx/ConfigurationContextFactoryBean.java
>> >>> >> [5]
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/axis/axis2/java/core/scratch/java/veithen/spring/axis2-spring-core/src/main/java/org/apache/axis2/spring/cfgctx/ListenerManagerFactoryBean.java
>> >>> >> [6]
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/axis/axis2/java/core/scratch/java/veithen/spring/axis2-spring-core/src/main/java/org/apache/axis2/spring/service/PojoServiceFactoryBean.java
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
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