Just got back from a long weekend vacation without any net access. Talk about withdrawal:)

I have just gotten through reading this entire thread... Whew.


On Jun 19, 2006, at 8:48 PM, Robert Engels wrote:


People making these arguments against 1.5 sound really ill- informed, or
lazy. Neither of which is good for open-source development.


Ouch. I'm not sure which I am: Is it ill-informed or lazy?

I lurk here to see what is being developed and am impressed with the care and the thoughtfulness that goes into the code. I'm probably better served by joining the user's mailing list, but I find this more educational.

So, my comment is that of a user.

I'll repeat myself. I am a contributor to the open source project, BibleDesktop, which allows a user to search Bibles using boolean logic. We have settled on Java 1.4 because all of our user community has Java 1.4 available. Our user community consists of people and groups that use hand me down hardware, that was past due when they got it. Most of these users are not computer literate, but use their computer as a tool to do their work. So even if their hardware could be upgraded to a newer OS, it it not likely. (The vast majority of our user base uses Windows 98, but a few use MacOS 9!)

When will we stop supporting Win98 and MacOS 9? When our users no longer use it. (No a lone hold out won't stop progress... And yes Win98 runs Java 1.5 just fine! But if it weren't for those reliable Mac machines, we might not have to stay with Java 1.4!)

We use quite a few apache and jakarta libraries and we upgrade to the latest and greatest as soon as we can. So far, there have been no Java 5.0 libraries and the new libraries have not provided any stability/performance problems.

Can I stick with 2.0.x? Certainly. However, I'd rather not. I keep reading about refactoring providing a significant, incremental improvement, and I'd like to provide that, especially for those older machines!

Can Lucene's going to Java 1.5 change/influence a migration of BibleDesktop to Java 1.5. Nope. The only thing that can influence that is "business decisions"

So, which is it: Ill-informed or lazy?

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