OK, I did some digging on this ... using native locks has been discussed before:
* In this thread (2.5 yrs ago), to get locking across machines, a pluggable locking framework was created. This looks very clean as it would allow, eg, "single JVM" instances of Lucene to use an in-process lock w/ FSDirectory instead of filesystem based locks. Locking is then independent of Directory implemenation in use: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/lucene/java-dev/24329?search_string=pluggable%20lock;#24329 This was then opened as an issue with nice patch: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-305 * Also 2.5 yrs ago, this bug (separately) was opened, which looks like a starvation issue (because there's no "scheduling" of lock acquisitions), with a patch was that uses native locks: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-307 * Then in this thread (2 yrs ago), native locks were explored as a way to make locking over NFS work, but apparently (??) didn't reach closure because the approach seemed to hang over NFS: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/lucene/java-dev/22464?search_string=FileLock;#22464 * There in this thread (1.5 yrs ago) it seems this was the original driver for switching from 1.3 to 1.4 (but then didn't happen): http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/lucene/java-dev/25034?search_string=FileLock;#25034 It seems like: * Locking is a sore point now. Just googling on the "lock obtain timed out" produces quite a few results. * Most of these are probably from hard shutdowns (jvm crashed or was killed, power lost to machine, etc) leaving lock files in the filesystem, which native locking would automatically prevent. * Some of these cases are probably the thread starvation case (LUCENE-307) maybe (speculating...) from frequent interleaving of deleting docs via IndexReader & adding docs via IndexWriter. With the right Lock class we can resolve this. * Remote locking is a relatively common need but not supported now (and native locking and/or pluggable locking w/ a DB or other implementation, should be able to resolve). I think the best course of action here is: * Let's first try to get the patches in LUCENE-305 updated to current HEAD sources and then committed? This can be done independent of native locks, by having the current locking implementation be the default Lock class for starters. * Next, create a native locking class that extends Lock. Borrow / copy / be inspired from the examples above (and also from Hadoop / Jackrabbit and others). Try to resolve other issues (the starvation issue above; using wait/notify instead of sleep / poll). Add this to core or contrib, and at some point make it the default Lock implementation for FSDirectory. Does that sound right? If so, how to nudge this forward? There was thread recently on voting for bugs to fix. I vote +1 for LUCENE-305! I'll volunteer to update LUCENE-305 to current HEAD unless original author (or someone else) wants to? Mike "Yonik Seeley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 06/21/2006 11:53 AM Please respond to java-dev@lucene.apache.org To java-dev@lucene.apache.org cc java-user@lucene.apache.org Subject Re: using lucene Lock inter-jvm On 6/21/06, Michael McCandless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does anyone know of any reasons not to switch Lucene's FSDirectory locking > to the java.nio.channels.FileLock? EG, are there any performance issues > that people are aware of? It's available since Java 1.4. Good question Michael, no reason that I know of... I think its probably just that no one has revisited the issue since Lucene moved to 1.4 -Yonik http://incubator.apache.org/solr Solr, the open-source Lucene search server --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]