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Michael McCandless commented on LUCENE-818: ------------------------------------------- >> On the thread safety issue: are you saying if one thread closes the >> reader while another thread is using it, there is uncertainty excactly >> when the 2nd thread will hit the AlreadyClosedException (because of >> how the JVM schedules the threads)? > > Yes, but it's not just thread scheduling, it's also lack of memory > barriers. The 2nd thread may *never* see the close(), depending on > the exact architecture of machine and the JVM. Yikes. Is this the Java memory model issue? Ie, there is no hard guarantee on when a "write" from one thread will be visible to other threads, unless you use "volatile"? >> I think this kind of thread behavior is normal/expected? > > For a class that isn't thread safe, yes. IndexReader is advertised > as being thread safe though. If we guarantee an exception accessing > a closed reader, then that should work 100% of the time. I don't > think we should make that guarantee. OK I think we shouldn't "guarantee" it. I think listing as "@throws AlreadyClosedException if this IndexReader is closed" is OK? > We can still throw meaningful errors in more cases and make it > easier for the user to debug that, but it should not be deemed an > error if we don't throw an exception. Users should never rely on > getting this exception for flow-control purposes anyway. Agreed. >> OK how about we do not call ensureOpen() in these IndexReader methods?: >> numDoc() >> maxDoc() >> isDeleted() > > +1 > > hasDeletions() too? OK I will change to not call ensureOpen() for hasDeletions too. I will roll a new patch with this. >> > what about setting more things to null when a reader is closed? >> Well ... I would prefer not to increase the frequency of getting "undefined" >> NPEs out of the reader > > Yes, but not all bugs will be user bugs. Some will be internal > Lucene stuff that bypass public methods. It's still better that > these fail quicker too. Anyway, that can be handled on a > case-by-case basis later. OK, I agree. Better to throw a "fail-fast" NPE than do something strange later. > IndexWriter should detect when it's used after being closed > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > Key: LUCENE-818 > URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-818 > Project: Lucene - Java > Issue Type: Bug > Components: Index > Affects Versions: 2.1 > Reporter: Michael McCandless > Assigned To: Michael McCandless > Priority: Minor > Attachments: LUCENE-818.patch, LUCENE-818.take2.patch > > > Spinoff from this thread on java-user: > http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/lucene/java-user/45986 > If you call addDocument on IndexWriter after it's closed you'll hit a > hard-to-explain NullPointerException (because the RAMDirectory was > closed). Before 2.1, apparently you won't hit any exception and the > IndexWrite will keep running but will have released it's write lock (I > think). > I plan to fix IndexWriter methods to throw an IllegalStateException if > it has been closed. -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. - You can reply to this email to add a comment to the issue online. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]