: No, no, no, Lucene still has no need for maven or ivy for dependency 
management.
: We can just hack around all issues with ant scripts.

it doesn't really matter if it's ant scripts, or ivy declarations, or 
maven pom entries -- the point is the same.

We can't distribute the jars, but we can distribute programatic means for 
users to fetch teh jars themselves.

(even if we magicly switched to ivy or maven for dependency management, 
problems like this build failure would still exist if a/the dependency 
repo was down at build time, and we'd still likely distribute "fat" binary 
tar balls containing all the dependency jars whose licenses are compatible 
with the ASL.  (users who download the binary artifacts shouldn't *have* 
to know ivy/maven to use LUcene, anymore then they have to know ant right 
now)



-Hoss


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