Jerry Solomon x2761 wrote:
>
> Hello List,
>
> I have spent the past several weeks trying out two commercially available
> JDE's, Simplicity (datarepresentations.com) and SuperMojo (penumbrasoftware.com).
> Although I have not done an exhaustive evaluation, I am coming to the
> conclusion that these (and probably other) JDE's are not terribly useful
> for more than "toy" projects. I would greatly appreciate hearing from
> anyone who has actually used either of these products to produce real,
> substantial project code, and what their experiences might have been.
> Thanks in advance,
I've done fairly substantial stuff with JBuilder and Visual Cafe on NT,
and with emacs/JDE on linux. I tried SuperMojo, and it was never able to
absorb my existing, working code, so I gave up. I tried CoffeeShop, and
never got it to work properly. I would like an interface builder for
prototyping; maybe SuperMojo would be OK for that, but I'm really very
happy with emacs/JDE for the big stuff. The only thing I miss from
JBuilder is the debugger. The jdk debugger is a bit crufty in
comparison, but at least it does work.
The other thing I'm experimenting with is Together/J (www.oisoft.com). I
think for server-side stuff, and about 50% of client-side stuff, a UML
tool is much more useful than a GUI builder. Unfortunately, Together/J
is VERY expensive for the commercial version.
John Collins