thanks for forwarding the article jmb. If you actually read it it is very positive... really read it and keep it mind it comes from a spinmeister and you see things such as "well sure, it's won the corporate intranet"... SOOO... let me get this straight, our prodigal son has won the most decisive market out there, the one that really decides what is going on, the one that NT is loosing now, as we speak, ie the corporate market and the article, in-fine a positive article, ADMITS SO! BTW, Donna Summer is way cool! So please jmg whoever you are (obviously a lawyer??? what are the uneducated masses doing in here? In this technobility a lawyer is a peasant, hee hee ) please don't send alarming messages that get SteveByrne HIMSELF responding. Please Steve stay on track, i tell you STAY ON man!!! If Java-linux is nobility, you're king and I tell you we need you big time and if you guys deliver, the rest of us will take it to the stars... I swear, man, stay on target, you're right on it.. and don't worry about the rest this from the "WE'RE WATCHING OVER TEAM" Now jmb either go code (from may the source be with you department) or do something productive, and maybe we need a moderator, to keep inferiorminds (TM) out of here. thanks keep it up blaise _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com