Hello all, Apologies for the off-topic cross-post but I thought these 2 mail-lists would contain people with a general interest in this topic. I just wanted to pass on the gist of some emails I exchanged with Patrick Lenz (freshmeat maintainer). Basically I asked if they were happy to have java open-source projects registered with freshmeat (freshmeat.net), to which the reply was yes (and that there maybe anoter site up specialising in java apps soon). Also there has been a web-ring setup by John Jensen over at http://members.tripod.com/~mpTOOLS/ring.html (I know a few other sites have been setup in the past, but unfortunetely they don't seem to be being maintained lately). The reason I'm "advertising" this stufff is that I think there are probably still some really good/useful/neat projects being worked on out there that we never hear about because there are no accepted places to register this stuff. For instance I only recently heard about a useful app on the Freebuilder list, because it happened to get cross-posted there and I think I remember the author saying afterwards that he got more responses about it after he sent the post to the list than he had up till then. So hopefully if authors register their projects at these places, we will all benefit from hearing about these projects and hopefully the authors will beneift too, by getting more exposure for their projects and thus more co-developers/testers/users. Well, now returning to your regular list traffic ... Thanks, Maksim Lin.