ypbind and its friends had been misbehaving: fo some reason I can;'t fathom they weren't being started at boot time on server or workstation. Rebooted both machines, and java's working again. So are ypbind and its friends. Sheesh, and I heard winders was bad. Back to your regular program all. -- Cheers John Summerfield http://os2.ami.com.au/os2/ for OS/2 support. Configuration, networking, combined IBM ftpsites index.