You may want to be on the alert for a message like this. Apparently either
the administrator of java.blackdown.org or a very poorly-written bounce
catcher is seriously misconfigured. If you note, it claims to have removed
me due to bounces my mail account caused, but in reality, it was
[EMAIL PROTECTED] My mail server was up the entire time, and my
mail logs confirm that.
I've received no response from any blackdown admin regarding this or the
other issues I raised the other day.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 01:54:21 -0500
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: You have been removed from the list
Your mail address [EMAIL PROTECTED] has been removed
from the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailinglist.
It generated an excessive amount of bounced mails.
Before sending in a subscription request to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] again, please ensure that
this problem has been resolved. When in doubt, ask your system
administrator or send mail to "postmaster".
The last one of those bounced mails has been quoted below:
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> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 18:34:17 -0600
> From: John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Kevin Hester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: JavaLinux for servlets
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>Your message has been enqueued and undeliverable for 1 day(s)
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>Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 18:34:17 -0600
>Resent-from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>From: John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: JavaLinux for servlets
>In-reply-to: <B123A833D5BDD1119776006008AE250B397D88@MESSENGER>; from Kevin
> Hester on Tue, Feb 16, 1999 at 04:34:03PM -0800
>Resent-sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: Kevin Hester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Cc: 'Raju Karia' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>On Tue, Feb 16, 1999 at 04:34:03PM -0800, Kevin Hester wrote:
>
>>
>> > I would certainly not use Java for CGI. libapache-mod-perl, FastCGI, etc.
>> if necessary.
>>
>> I'd definitely encourage anyone to use servlets with wild abandon. So easy
>> and clean - I haven't had to write CGI cruft in over a year. In exchange
>> for servlets I have a logical/maintainable tree of server side classes.
>
>But what techincal advantage do they really give? Java is slower, uses more
>system resources, etc.
>
>John
>
>
>--Boundary_(ID_4uwT2qbNDRl0ro2j+O1haQ)--
>
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