Stephen, I hope it isn't too late to give you this feedback, but I just got a chance to try out jdk116v3a-glibc on RedHat 5.1 (Intel). Here is what I found: 1) Swing menus now seem to appear in the correct place below the menu bar rather than in front of it. 2) I *think* that my bug #5 in the bug tracking system might now be fixed. The problem seems to have gone away. I suspected that this was related to 1) so hopefully that fixed it. 3) My thread safety problem with Graphics.drawString() still occurs. This can be seen by running the testcase in my bug number 4. I am a little puzzled by this, since the jdk116v3 readme seems to imply that this is fixed, but I still get the problem of "array index out of bounds exception". In any case, I don't see any obvious regressions, and the fix to 1) is a godsend, since I was getting very tired of moving every Swing window before I could use a menu on it. Thanks for the continuing efforts, and apologies that this feedback was a while coming. Rob Rob Nugent Development Manager UniKix Technologies Europe [EMAIL PROTECTED]