We must have in mind that Sun must find a sound musiness model for whatever
they do, no matter how much goodwill they may have. Sun has stockholders,
Linux hackers don't...
Then, I think Sun could like the combination of SPARC hardware + Linux OS +
Java infrastructure and applications. But maybe they should be convinced of
that.
JDK 1.2 is late to Linux, but the new code base is supposed to be easier to
port and evolve in multiple platforms thanks to JNI; and the major work is
the first port, so I expect future releases to come in sync or very near to
Solaris & Windows.
(On the other hand, Linux for SPARC is not second-class... at least RedHat
distribution seems to put Alpha and SPARC in equal footing with x86.)
It's natural that Sun supports Solaris better than other systems. I'm
amazed when people expect Sun to write lots of software for competing
platforms and release it free. Even the Win32 JDK is only well supported
because they have no other choice (thanks god Sun didn't rely totally on
Microsoft to do Java on Win32!)... the vendors (or advocates, for OSS)
should take the job of porting to their preferred platforms. What must be
required from Sun is a level playing field to do such work. I suppose this
is true with the community license.
And maybe we shouldn't put all our bets in HotSpot, which is still
unavaliable. What about putting some pressure in IBM? Their VM is still
1.1, but it burns rubber here. :) And their stuff is highly portable, they
alrady support more platforms than Sun's JDK and they can support Linux real
quick if they have a good reason to...
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>What worries me is that SUN will not give HotSpot for free so I don't
>know how the licensing will be worked out for the Blackdown
>organisation. I also read an article where the say that SUN was the last
>major company to endorse Linux I guess that they are scare of Linux and
>want to protect their beloved Solaris. I'm also a bit tired of SUN
>marketing "Write Once Run Anywhere". I think that again marketing and
>technology are going seperate ways. SUN is not playing it fare. On one
>hand they want to protect their OS and on the other hand they want to
>domintate the world with Java but their playing it safe not to disturb
>their OS conterpart that why all new releases of the JDK are for
>Solaris-Sparc, Solaris-Intel and Windows. In my opinion they should drop
>Solaris-Intel and replace it with Linux, since nobody is using the damn
>thing. They also want to fight the dominance of the Windows platform but
>they don't want to support Linux directly wich right now is the biggest
>competitor to Windows. Maybe I'm complaining to much but hey six months
>after everybody else we have JDK1.2 in beta and now all the other API's
>are comming maybe were in a better position then the Mac-OS.
>
>Thanks
>
>----------------------------------
>Jean-Pierre Dubé
>Infocom enr.
>Developpement de logiciel
>Software development
>
>
>Nelson Minar wrote:
>>
>> >About HotSpot: I really wouldn't know. Would like to see it myself
>> >too. Linux allways comes last (JDK 1.2, RDMBS's etc), but things are
>> >changing I guess... for the good.
>>
>> Does anyone with knowledge of Sun politics know how we can effectively
>> lobby for more support for Java on Linux? I really don't understand
>> what's going on at Sun. The official word is they are "supporting"
>> Linux, but the results they've delievered have been less than
>> exciting. No offense, Blackdown guys! You're doing great. But have you
>> really gotten any help from Sun?
>>
>> The part I don't understand is every single person at Sun I've ever
>> talked to is enthusiastic about supporting Linux. There's a good
>> technical case to make for it now, too - Java is moving towards the
>> embedded systems market (notably, through Jini), and Linux is better
>> suited for this application than pretty much any other mainstream OS.
>> Is there some internal politics going on that is making Linux be
>> second fiddle to Windows?
>>
>> Anyway, if anyone with some understanding of Sun is interested in
>> working on putting together some effective activism, please contact
>> me. Maybe we can make something happen.
>>
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