Hi, I've found the miracle handful of lines of code that crash two out of three compilers I could find *grin* The contestants: javac (Blackdown JDK1.1.6v2 on Linux) javac (Sun JDK1.1.5 on NT) jikes (on Linux) sj (the Symantec compiler on WinNT) The sole survivor: jikes Hehehehe :) dstn. Caution: compiler death below this line --------------------------------------- import java.awt.*; public class DieNow { public DieNow () { Panel death = new Panel (null){ public Insets getInsets () { return new Insets (6,6,6,6); } }; } } --------------------------------- Dustin Lang, [EMAIL PROTECTED]