Several people have asked for Java3D. I would like to draw the attention of those interested in an immediate mode graphics API for Java to the following: Following the demise of Magician, and reading the logs of the ARB discussions, I set out to file a feature request for Java OpenGL bindings being part of the Java Language Specification (suggested as java.awt.gl). The request is available at: http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/bugParade/bugs/4223302.html There will only be a minority on this list interested in OpenGL, however, I would appreciate if you could take the time to check and consider adding your comment. Due to the bonehead way Sun is currently handling JDC, you can't vote for the request, instead you are supposed to add a feedback line. b. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]