Just a note that these two options peeve me off, particularly under 1.2 beta, where the default is set pretty low. Virtual memory was invented so we don't have to worry about this sort of thing. My Swing applications just about all need a memory setting and some of my other number cruncher applications end up crashing more regularly because they hit these boundaries. I can understand the restrictions for running untrusted applets but local trusted applications should have no local stack or memory limit. There - that released some of the frustration... Regards Mark ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]