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This is not a flame, just a comment :-)

....Or perhaps it's just down to the fact that the JVM was originally coded 
on Solaris. Although Solaris and Linux are fairly common on a number of 
fronts, they differ on a great many too.

Perhaps the best way to solve the problem ( although it's more bit more 
bullish) is to go the clean room approach. Do it from scratch and make the 
JVM fit the OS, the same way SUN did with it's Solaris VM.

And lets not forget, SUN is not a charity and it's going to have to sell a 
few StarFire's to cover some of it's development costs. If people like VA 
start selling Linux Boxes at a third of the cost, plus 24/7 support, why buy 
SUN ?

Plus let's not forget IBM. I've been using jikes and their VM, which is 
pretty damn quick and stable, and they are practically gagging to sell Linux 
boxes (AIX, what happened ? ).

So all in all, SUN need to make some money out of Java, if they help to make 
Java too good on Linux, nobody will need to buy SUN servers. So why should 
SUN help ?

Write once, run anywhere ( or was that debug everywhere :) might not be so 
helpful to SUN's bottom line.

I'm a bit of a pessimist, I do hope that I'm totally wrong ( when was 
jdk1.2pre2 released???? )

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>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nelson Minar)
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Gosling says he wants to support Java on Linux
>Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 11:50:21 -0400 (EDT)
>
>An interview with Gosling is at
>   
>http://webserv.vnunet.com/www_user/plsql/pkg_vnu_search_mo.right_frame?p_story=89624
>
>Suprising quote:
>
>   Zombiehead: James, what's your stance on Java in relation to open
>   source? It's one of the reasons Linux is successful. Do you see this
>   as a future possibility?
>
>   JG: We'd like to deal with the problem of Java not working on Linux.
>   It's a somewhat complex problem.
>
>   The inter-operability problems with Linux are just horrible. You
>   have to be excruciatingly careful because all the different flavours
>   of Linux are all slightly different.
>
>   NN: Can you project a time when problems are resolved?
>
>   JG: It's hard to tell when those problems will be resolved. The
>   Linux community has got itself into a bit of a pickle. I think they
>   could have avoided it, but it's now going to take time, and it'll be
>   a painful thing for them. They're going to go from being a bunch of
>   hobbyists having a good time to developing mission-critical
>   applications. The road may be a little bumpy.
>
>Does anyone have any clue what Gosling is talking about? I guess the
>native threads problems could have something to do with Linux
>versions, but the green threads versions seem awfully portable to me
>and are just fine for most use.
>
>My feeling is still that the real problem with Java and Linux is that
>it's a problem of Sun politics, not technology. So I was quite
>surprised to see Gosling vaguely endorse the idea.
>
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