Hi,

I am interested in this discussion, but I am trying to convert it into
more 
plain English. I always thought that the lightweight components are
peerless. 
They don't need X libraries and work "directly" with OS and hardware. 

Swing was claimed as lightweight component based package, so it should
not 
need X or Windows. On contrary, AWT was claimed to be heavyweight based 
component package, that is why it needs X - is it true? Is it different
on 
Solaris, Windows or Linux?

Also, "libXm appears to be statically linked into libawt.so" - does it
mean
that X modules were compiled and placed into libawt.so library, so in
reality 
you call X, but you don't need to link with it?

Thank you,

Jacob Nikom

Nathan Meyers wrote:
> 
> Jeff Galyan wrote:
> >
> > Java *always* requires Motif and X libraries. Even on Solaris. End of
> > story.
> 
> "Requires" meaning that Blackdown requires an *external* libXm? Not
> necessarily. JDK1.2pre2 certainly doesn't (libXm appears to be
> statically linked into libawt.so), and I believe something similar was
> done for some of the JDK1.1 executables and/or libraries.
> 
> Nathan
> 
> >
> > Carsten Hoeger wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sat, Oct 02, Jeff Galyan wrote:
> > >
> > > > Actually, libXm.so is Motif, which is required by AWT, and therefore
> > > > Java. You'll need to get a Motif distribution (I use RedHat Motif 2.1.10
> > > > with no problems).
> > >
> > > That's not true!
> > >
> > > There are both, static and dynamic linked versions of the java
> > > vm. The dependency to libXm results from the dynamical linked
> > > version.
> > >
> > > The static linked version of java _does_ _not_ _need_ Motif
> > > Runtime Libraries!!!
> > >
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