On Wed, 2 May 2001, Nathan Meyers wrote:
> The AWT seemed like a good idea at the time, but it has aged poorly.
> Even the most careful programmers have a hard time designing an app or
> applet that looks decent in all environments. And the two toolkits
> in this case - the Windows GUI and Motif - are so different that the
> problem is a nightmare for a Java GUI of any complexity. Add a couple of
> other problems - the lowest-common-denominator capabilities of the AWT,
> and the requirement that applet tags specify fixed pixel dimensions -
> and you see that applet programmers have been hobbled from the beginning.
> It's not about being lazy, it's about being screwed.
*laugh* Oh, now you want to get into applet issues? I was talking
basic applications when I was writing before. I do *all* my work as
Swing Applications. I don't touch the non-portable AWT stuff and I don't
do applets, specifically because they aren't portable.
If you insist on using non-portable stuff, don't blame the non-portable
stuff for your own decisions.
> The stupid and ruinous food fight between Sun and Microsoft pretty much
> destroyed client-side Java for generations of developers and users. Swing
> is a good toolkit, but it's also a squandered opportunity thanks to the
> Java wars. We can rant all we want about the "lazy" programmers publishing
> applets, but they're just trying to make the best of a bad situation
> they didn't create. The problem is much deeper and harder to solve.
We can all thank Microsoft for this mess. They tried their usual
800-pound gorilla tricks but they took on someone with just as many lawyers.
Big mistake for a bully who normally picks on much smaller prey.
Only Windows users are suffering from this problem, the rest of us are doing
fine without Microsoft's support.
--
Joi Ellis Software Engineer
Aravox Technologies [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
No matter what we think of Linux versus FreeBSD, etc., the one thing I
really like about Linux is that it has Microsoft worried. Anything
that kicks a monopoly in the pants has got to be good for something.
- Chris Johnson
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