Replying to my own message about Jdialogs being iconified after show/hide/show: it seems that this is a known bug, 4392518, Incorrect window (Swing) handling with Gnome/enlightenment. In their wisdom Sun have decided that fixing it in the still-to-be-released merlin (1.4.0) is good enough, so they've closed the bug. Even though it's still present in the current production release. And people are stumbling into it, wasting time looking for bugs in their own code, then documenting it and reporting it as a bug. Pah. Ron Who awaits 1.4.0 in the hope, though hardly expectation, that it might finally fix 4102292, New AWT Frame w/o coordinates always pops up in upper left hand screen location. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]