In this second heap dump I drilled down only one of the SegmentReaders (of the 
StandardDirectoryReader). Looks like StandardSegmentReader has 24 subReaders 
(SegmentReaders)

Class Name                                                   | Shallow Heap | 
Retained Heap | Percentage
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
org.apache.lucene.index.StandardDirectoryReader @ 0x783932460|           72 |   
 59'255'872 |      3.04%
|- org.apache.lucene.index.SegmentReader[24] @ 0x794089ee0   |          112 |   
 59'190'960 |      3.03%
|  |- org.apache.lucene.index.SegmentReader @ 0x788820f40    |           72 |   
 16'905'072 |      0.87% <- this is the one I "drilled down"
|  |- org.apache.lucene.index.SegmentReader @ 0x783555a20    |           72 |   
  5'845'840 |      0.30%
|  |- org.apache.lucene.index.SegmentReader @ 0x788cea030    |           72 |   
  5'399'656 |      0.28%
|  |- org.apache.lucene.index.SegmentReader @ 0x7839e2bd8    |           72 |   
  4'256'552 |      0.22%
|  |- org.apache.lucene.index.SegmentReader @ 0x77f281b98    |           72 |   
  4'116'944 |      0.21%
|  |- org.apache.lucene.index.SegmentReader @ 0x7888212a0    |           72 |   
  3'887'368 |      0.20%
|  |- org.apache.lucene.index.SegmentReader @ 0x7845ee638    |           72 |   
  3'818'192 |      0.20%
|  |- org.apache.lucene.index.SegmentReader @ 0x794777c08    |           72 |   
  3'644'816 |      0.19%
|  |- org.apache.lucene.index.SegmentReader @ 0x783956a90    |           72 |   
  3'583'312 |      0.18%
|  |- org.apache.lucene.index.SegmentReader @ 0x783dd5790    |           72 |   
  3'153'568 |      0.16%
|  |- org.apache.lucene.index.SegmentReader @ 0x783dd57d8    |           72 |   
  1'017'264 |      0.05%
|  |- org.apache.lucene.index.SegmentReader @ 0x77f27b7e8    |           72 |   
    668'304 |      0.03%
|  |- org.apache.lucene.index.SegmentReader @ 0x77d657100    |           72 |   
    635'344 |      0.03%
|  |- org.apache.lucene.index.SegmentReader @ 0x77e35bb10    |           72 |   
    614'784 |      0.03%
|  |- org.apache.lucene.index.SegmentReader @ 0x77d676e68    |           72 |   
    263'176 |      0.01%
|  |- org.apache.lucene.index.SegmentReader @ 0x77d6579e8    |           72 |   
    244'328 |      0.01%
|  |- org.apache.lucene.index.SegmentReader @ 0x77f281b08    |           72 |   
    211'152 |      0.01%
|  |- org.apache.lucene.index.SegmentReader @ 0x77d6579a0    |           72 |   
    178'784 |      0.01%
|  |- org.apache.lucene.index.SegmentReader @ 0x77f2761b8    |           72 |   
    175'384 |      0.01%
|  |- org.apache.lucene.index.SegmentReader @ 0x77d657148    |           72 |   
    167'128 |      0.01%
|  |- org.apache.lucene.index.SegmentReader @ 0x77d676e20    |           72 |   
    164'128 |      0.01%
|  |- org.apache.lucene.index.SegmentReader @ 0x77d657a30    |           72 |   
    150'560 |      0.01%
|  |- org.apache.lucene.index.SegmentReader @ 0x77d676eb0    |           72 |   
     53'992 |      0.00%
|  |- org.apache.lucene.index.SegmentReader @ 0x77d676ef8    |           72 |   
     35'200 |      0.00%
|  '- Total: 24 entries                                      |              |   
            |           
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Michael McCandless [mailto:luc...@mikemccandless.com] 
Gesendet: Montag, 16. Juni 2014 10:59
An: Lucene Users
Betreff: Re: [lucene 4.6] NPE when calling IndexReader#openIfChanged

Wait, in fst.ByteStore I see "only" 5'485'824 -- does this mean
5485824 bytes, or ~5.2 MB?  This is probably "correct", meaning this is the RAM 
to hold the terms index.  But I can't see from your heap dump output where the 
other ~51.3 MB is being used by StandardDirectoryReader.

Mike McCandless

http://blog.mikemccandless.com


On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Clemens Wyss DEV <clemens...@mysign.ch> wrote:
>> bytes (ie, ~56.5 MB) being used by the StandardDirectoryReader?
> Right, namely in org.apache.lucene.util.fst.BytesStore's
>
> Class Name                                                                    
>                     | Shallow Heap | Retained Heap | Percentage
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> org.apache.lucene.index.StandardDirectoryReader @ 0x783932460                 
>                     |           72 |    59'255'872 |      3.04%
> |- org.apache.lucene.index.SegmentReader[24] @ 0x794089ee0                    
>                     |          112 |    59'190'960 |      3.03%
> |  |- org.apache.lucene.index.SegmentReader @ 0x788820f40                     
>                     |           72 |    16'905'072 |      0.87%
> |  |  |- org.apache.lucene.index.SegmentCoreReaders @ 0x7910cacc8             
>                     |           56 |    16'895'576 |      0.87%
> |  |  |  |- 
> org.apache.lucene.codecs.perfield.PerFieldPostingsFormat$FieldsReader @ 
> 0x780661c50   |           24 |    16'864'864 |      0.86%
> |  |  |  |  |- org.apache.lucene.codecs.BlockTreeTermsReader @ 0x7910cae50    
>                     |           56 |    16'864'240 |      0.86%
> |  |  |  |  |  |- java.util.TreeMap @ 0x783902738                             
>                     |           48 |    16'858'472 |      0.86%
> |  |  |  |  |  |  '- java.util.TreeMap$Entry @ 0x77ec5f9f8                    
>                     |           40 |    16'858'424 |      0.86%
> |  |  |  |  |  |     |- java.util.TreeMap$Entry @ 0x77ec5fa20                 
>                     |           40 |    10'895'656 |      0.56%
> |  |  |  |  |  |     |  |- 
> org.apache.lucene.codecs.BlockTreeTermsReader$FieldReader @ 0x78347fc08|      
>      72 |     5'497'328 |      0.28%
> |  |  |  |  |  |     |  |  |- org.apache.lucene.util.fst.FST @ 0x788fe36d0    
>                     |          104 |     5'497'208 |      0.28%
> |  |  |  |  |  |     |  |  |  |- org.apache.lucene.util.fst.BytesStore @ 
> 0x77ec5fe80              |           40 |     5'485'824 |      0.28%
> |  |  |  |  |  |     |  |  |  |- org.apache.lucene.util.fst.FST$Arc[128] @ 
> 0x786efec80            |          528 |        11'216 |      0.00%
> |  |  |  |  |  |     |  |  |  |- org.apache.lucene.util.BytesRef @ 
> 0x780664410                    |           24 |            48 |      0.00%
> |  |  |  |  |  |     |  |  |  |- int[0] @ 0x7806643f8                         
>                     |           16 |            16 |      0.00%
> |  |  |  |  |  |     |  |  |  '- Total: 4 entries                             
>                     |              |               |
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Michael McCandless [mailto:luc...@mikemccandless.com]
> Gesendet: Freitag, 13. Juni 2014 15:48
> An: Lucene Users
> Betreff: Re: [lucene 4.6] NPE when calling IndexReader#openIfChanged
>
> On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 8:53 AM, Clemens Wyss DEV <clemens...@mysign.ch> 
> wrote:
>> Thanks a lot!
>>>"large text fields"
>> What is a good limit (in characters) to switch from StringField to 
>> TextField? Do <Langugae>Analyzers (e.g. GermanAnalyzer)  help a lot in 
>> reducing the size of an Index?
>
> It's more based on your app's requirements.  StringField indexes everything 
> as a single token.
>
>>> Add XXXDocValuesField instead of e.g. StringField.
>> Does this apply only for StringFields? Or for TextFields too?
>>
>>> Upgrade to the upcoming Lucene 4.9
>> we have not yet transitionen to Java 7/8 ... hopefully soon ;)
>>
>>> and take a heap dump and see what's using RAM
>> Find attached a snippet from MemoryAnalyzer
>
> Does this say  59255872 bytes (ie, ~56.5 MB) being used by the 
> StandardDirectoryReader?
>
> I'm a little confused because I don't see which structures sum up to that 
> total.  And I would expect the FST (terms index) to take more RAM.
>
> Mike McCandless
>
> http://blog.mikemccandless.com
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