A _ POORLY DESIGNED _ Java3D Benchmark by Torando Labs.
For _ FAST _ graphics render _ FLAT _ surfaces.
Smart people know it, the Tornado benchmark doesn't show it.
The dopey Tornado test only uses scenes with spheres.
No test of what we care about : optimized, flat surfaces.
__ You __ CAN __ GET __ GOOD __ RESULTS __
| We are getting _ very _ satisfactory _ performance using the
| [ Java3d ] VRML viewer.
|
| we are getting __ 50 K+ __ polygons at realtime speed ( 25-30 fps).
| This is with little to no optimization except good training of modelers
...
| [ PIII 733 with a GeForce ]
|
http://archives.java.sun.com/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0003&L=java3d-interest&P=R3820
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- - - - Great 3d Animation with _ PLAIN _ Java - - - - -
" Boxing Billy " ( Clinton )
http://www.shout3d.com/demo_7.html
" Fashion Show " ( multiple models, outfits )
http://www.excitextreme.com/fashion/
" Relatively Realistic Real-Time 3d Rendering "
http://www.frontiernet.net/~imaging/java3dviewer.html
" Gait Analysis : Interactive 3d Human Animation "
http://www.frontiernet.net/~imaging/gait_model.html
Transparent sphere are NOT used ... 'cause we aint stupid.
_______ It's a _ BAD _ benchmark because : _______
_ ALL _ the test cases include _ TRANSPARENT SPHERES _
_ NONE _ of test cases include the more important and
more typical cases of using only faceted objects that dominate
the low and middle ranges of 'real-time' animation systems.
A good, intelligently designed benchmark would test for
_ DIFFERENT _ capabilities and performance characteristics.
This does NOT, the three tests are all essentially redundant.
No test of what people want and what Java does well.
Only tests of what people do not want and what Java does not do well.
For FAST graphics INTELLIGENT people render faceted objects.
Flat surfaces are rendered FASTER than curved surfaces.
Games use 3d Engines that render flat surfaces quickly and
the worlds use flat surfaces so they can be rendered quickly.
In most cases things like transparent spheres are not used
because using them would give bad performance, bad results,
a bad experience. Good and intelligent designers know this.
This benchmark is poorly designed.
Such a bad design, So much effort, So little intelligence.
Tornado Labs' " BenchJ3d " Benchmark is stupid and insulting.
The tests do not indicate which version of Java3d was used ...
| " Tornado Labs is the best intelligent software house in the world
| because we only recruit the smartest, ... and honest people ...
|
http://www.tornadolabs.com/About/about.html
What rubbish. You are either stupid or dishonest.
| Microsoft... Microsoft Windows is the de facto standard ...
|
http://www.tornadolabs.com/About/Tech/tech.html
Are you a fair judge with respect to Java ?
| Tornado Labs .... has technical articles available regarding
| some undocumented 'features' of the new Java releases
| ( most notably Java 3D ).
|
http://www.tornadolabs.com/About/Tech/tech.html
Tornado Labs has more arrogance than intelligence
and a greater allegiance to ' the defacto standard ' than
what is the best for consumers, the future, and Java.
Claiming expertise with Microsoft Windows, Java, 3Com,
and Linux ... actually have competence in who knows what.
| Daniel Selman from Tornado Labs to write
| " Java 3D Programming " for Manning Publications.
|
http://www.tornadolabs.com/News/news.html
Avoid this book, the O'Reilly and Sun Java Team books
are generally the better books.
| I'm writing a graphics intensive virtual environment
| - trying to decide whether performance issues exclude
| java3D from my choices.
|
| How does j3d perform relative to native opengl, performer,
| or directx ? Are there any sites you could direct me to that
| have comparisons between them?
>----------------------- ...
| http://www.tornadolabs.com/News/BenchJ3d_Results/benchj3d_results.html
| Markus
|
http://x43.deja.com/[ST_rn=ps]/getdoc.xp?AN=602834079
http://x43.deja.com/[ST_rn=ps]/getdoc.xp?AN=600676498
This poorly designed benchmark is doing a disservice to
Java3d, Java Developers, and people seeking useful information.
Java3d works well when used by people who know how to use it
which apparently does not include the people at Tornado Labs.
Good results come from good people.
Bad results come from bad or dishonest people.
Bad results is what you get from the Tornado Labs Test.
This Java3d benchmark shows Tornado Labs is unreliable.
__ BEYOND the PC : __ Linux Web Pads & PDAS __
Linux PDA -- 200 M-Hz -- : The Yopy ... beyond the x86 ...
http://www.pdabuzz.com/Features/Yopy.html
http://www.sem.samsung.co.kr/eng/product/digital/pda/index.htm
http://www.crusoe.com/mobile/
http://www.psion.com/series7/
__ MORE __ GREAT __ 3D __ WITH __ Java ___
" Chase / Gun Fight " : 'Beat Monk Bash'
http://www.shout3d.com/demo_1.html
" Java3d and VRML Loaders make and play '.mov'ies "
http://www.frontiernet.net/~imaging/java3d_and_vrml.html
" Great Real Time 3d Java on the Web " ( links )
http://www.frontiernet.net/~imaging/great_3d_java.html
" Interactive Avatar - 8 Gestures ( Louise ) "
http://www.avatardom.com/bouchon/
-- Paul, Java Developer
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