Fast & Portable : You _ CAN _ have both ... and do it with the same program, I do it with VRML. ** Now a Page One Feature at : http://www.jars.com/ ; ^ ) __ HIGH __ SPEED _______ : Java3D & VRML __ HIGH __ PORTABILITY __: Java 1.1 & VRML Human Animation that is Web Interactive ... and works with Java3D ... I'm doing with H-Anim Avatars ... Try it yourself ... the VRML file & a Web Interactive Program : Features : Nancy obeys your commands, make her Jump, etc. " YOU Control Human Animation Avatar " ( Web Interactive Java ) ----------------------------------------------- http://www.frontiernet.net/~imaging/H-Anim_Avatars.html http://www.frontiernet.net/~imaging/shout3d/models/ H-Anim/nancy_H-Anim_x3d.wrl The same data file works with both Java 1 and Java3d, and can be developed as a single program using Java3d where available. I do not have my Java3d on the web, it can be done but Java3d on the web will not be popular until Java3d and Java 2 come pre-installed in machines and with AOL ... until then ( may require a painfully HUGE download ) ... Microsoft will do it when consumers demand it or the federal government compels them ... which could come ... __ VERY QUICKLY __ ! ! ! Go Judge Jackson ! ! ! " Java3d on the Web " : a Car Racing Game http://www.arcadia.spb.ru/java3d/DrivingSimulator.htm http://www.hta-bi.bfh.ch/~swc/DemoJ3D/ Java is the _ ONLY _ solution for interactive 3d animation. that works on the Web and the multitude of portable devices and increasing diverse set of platforms including game machines, WebPads ( including the new Linux-AOL-Gateway WebPad ). - Java3D runs with OpenGL and can take advantage of hardware accelerators and compiled, optimized, and machine specific code for higher speed and higher quality rendering. - Java 1.1 runs is most modern Web Browsers and on all major platforms including : - Windows, Macintosh, Linux, Solaris, Be, EPOC ... VRML can ( as shown ) include portable, interactive, 3d animations that and is portable to all of these devices with Java 1.1 and can use hardware accelerators -- where available -- with Java3D ... giving you high portability and high speed. H-Anim, the Human Animation standard, lets artists and programmers work together --- and separately --- letting each stay within their area of expertise and excellence --- so the result combines the best of both. VRML and H-Anim are Open Standards of the Web3d Standards Group. VRML and H-Anim are portable and not limited to any CPU or OS. Java is portable and not limited to any CPU, OS ... or the Desktop ... Java3D may be difficult to install ... the timid may with to avoid it ... Java3D offers speed & customization for those motivated to be leaders. Java support in browsers is _ * MUCH *_ better ... and getting better ... Improved support for VRML, Java, and Java3D in browsers is supported by : -- Sun, AOL - Time Warner, Web3d, and the U.S. military ... ; ^ ) -- Java3D is supported by : Sun, SGI, HP, Windows, Linux. If you're smart & unhappy with your current VRML Viewer ... make your own ... YourOwn3d : Any fool can write a 3d VRML Viewer : I have, you can ! : " VRML Java Viewer " -- My Favorite, My Own, et all. http://www.frontiernet.net/~imaging/java3dviewer.html http://www.cs.tu-berlin.de/~ki/engines.html http://www.shout3d.com/about.html http://www.blaxxun.com/products/blaxxun3d/showcase/index.html http://anfyteam.com/an3d/index2.html " VRML / X3d Loaders for Java3d " ( FREE : Source Code for Loaders ) --------------------------------------- http://www.hypermultimedia.com/Xj3D/getstart.htm http://www.web3d.org/TaskGroups/x3d/sun/doc/ http://www.vrml.org/WorkingGroups/vrml-java3d/downloads/0.90/README http://www.web3d.org/TaskGroups/x3d/sun/doc/vrml/Browser.html http://www.web3d.org/WorkingGroups/vrml-java3d/ downloads/0.90/vj3d0.90.2.src.zip http://www.web3d.org/TaskGroups/x3d/cvsweb/cvsweb.cgi/~checkout~/x3d/ player/Vrml97Player.java Disclaimers : re: " If you're smart & unhappy with your current VRML Viewer ... " A challenge & invitation to some, disparaging no one & certainly not you. If you're doing Java3d off-line ... show us __ * SOMETHING * __ on-line ... with Java3d or Java 1. Java One : Be there, or have your Web3d H-Anim Avatar attend. Next Up : A Competition & Web Games with Java & H-Anim Avatars. It's not too late for a Java One Computer Animation / Game Contest ! Tonight a contest starts with programming for a Motorola Java Phone ! The above Avatar works for me with Java3D & my loader, you can test drive it on my page, grab the VRML file, and try it with your Java3d. -- Paul, Java Developer & Web Animator. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ " Imaging the Imagined : Modeling with Math & a Keyboard " =========================================================================== To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "signoff JAVA3D-INTEREST". 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