I've found out why I don't see anybody's J3D applets, including Fred's. I was ready to turn myself in to the loony bin. People, don't let this happen to you! I'll explain myself so no one else gets bitten the way I do. I was wondering how Fred claims to "do" J3D applets without using any of the <OBJECT> <EMBED> plumbing that the Plug-In Specification and Mr. Brown's "Ready to run Java 3D" book talk about. Certainly, he wouldn't expect a dumb little comment like "CONVERTED_APPLET" to fool my browser into doing "the right thing"? Certainly he must be lying when he claims to have hand-simulated the work of the HTML Converter. That, or done a poor job of it. I quote what I see on Fred's HelloUniverse page: [===== snip here. I hope this survives email transport =====] <!--"CONVERTED_APPLET"--><!-- CONVERTER VERSION 1.0 --><!----------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------><!-- <APPLET CODE = "HelloUniverse.class" WIDTH = 256 HEIGHT = 256 ALIGN = middle > <blockquote> <hr> If you were using a Java-capable browser, you would see Hello Universe! instead of this paragraph. <hr> </blockquote> </APPLET> --><!--"END_CONVERTED_APPLET"--> </p> [===== snip =====] Of course the fault lies not with Fred but with me. I own and use a spam blocker/firewall called AtGuard. I'd recommend it, except the manufacturer is now out of business and they sold the code to Symantec. From what I hear, they've made something strange out of it. Me being a fan of Java and an enemy of Micro$oft, my "Active Content / Binary Executables" settings say: Block Java applets: No. Block ActiveX controls: Yes. This works well to keep Web-delivered viruses, Trojan horses and whatnot off my disk and lets me view "normal" applets fine. Unfortunately, because the <EMBED> tag is inside the <CODE> tag normally used to deliver ActiveX, AtGuard sees the whole works as an ActiveX wrapper and turns it into HTML comment text. Like any dumb computer program, AtGuard dutifully did what it was told and protected me from ever seeing Fred's applets (and probably quite a few others). After doubting Fred, my own sanity, Sun's technology and most everything else, I deactivated AtGuard and everything works just fine. I enjoyed Fred's 2D applets and like his 3D work even more. My apologies to Fred for not making sense of this earlier, and my thanks to the List for supporting, testing and asking the right questions. Maybe mentioning this possible effect of firewalls/spam blockers will help Fred reach more viewers, and if it turns out I'm not the only one, maybe Justin Couch will want to include a hint about this in the j3d faq or somewhere else on that fine site. I'm so EMBARRASSED! -Carl- =========================================================================== To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "signoff JAVA3D-INTEREST". For general help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "help".
