Their "old" version, the ATI Rage Mobility pro, will run Java 3D apps.  I
use that on my laptop.   As John pointed out, you can't really do anything
with a *lot* of textures, but it will work.  (Everquest works well on these
things, for example).

Toshiba announced a laptop with the GeForce 2 last week.    I don't have
the press release handy, but I saw it on businesswire.com and (I think) on
Slashdot.

Steve

At 02:37 PM 2/5/2001 -0600, you wrote:
>Hopefully it will be an improvement over their previous pseudo "3D"
>laptop chipsets. Unfortunately that press release indicates 8 MB of
>memory.  We are rapidly approaching desktop machines commonly having 32
>MB or more of video memory.  And for the work we are doing with lots of
>textures that memory is gobbled up VERY fast.  I'm hoping NVidia can get
>a laptop version of the GeForce chipset available in laptops soon.
>Otherwise it looks like we are stuck using the DirectX version of Java
>3D on laptops for now.
>
>- John Wright
>Starfire Research
>
>Fred Klingener wrote:
> >
> > >From time to time on this list, there's interest in 3D on
> portables.  Here's
> > ATI's press release on the MOBILITY RADEON chip.
> >
> > http://www.ati.com/na/pages/corporate/press/2001/4359.html
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Fred Klingener
> >
> > No, I don't have any interest in any of this except to see 3D flourish on
> > portables.
> >
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