Paul,

I think people would respond better to you if your e-mails weren't
formatted like advertisements / spam.  If you are responding to someone
try just a normal reply with an answer to what they asked.

The way you "rant" like a zealot has trained people to just
automatically delete your posts without even reading them, thus they
have become spam and it's understandable that people are starting to ask
for this spam to be stopped.

- John Wright
Starfire Research

"P. Flavin" wrote:
>
> Hello Mona,
>
>    Please pause & think, we don't all like the things you like ...
>
>     Just four days ago Kenneth See wrote to this Java mail-list and
> asked about how to render with Java3d ( the subject of _ this list _ )
> graphic scenes that were stored in the VRML format ...
>
>   ... and that is what my  post was about ... trying to help people like
> him.
>
>   My post, was for him, and people like him ...
>
>    If it doesn't interest you, please ignore it, and have a good day !
>
>   Three days ago, on June 3, 2001 Ken wrote with the subject :
>
> "java 3d and VRML "  ... you can see his post here :
>
> http://archives.java.sun.com/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0106&L=java3d-interest&F=&S=&P=6069
>
>   or here :
>
>   http://archives.java.sun.com/cgi-bin/wa?A1=ind0106&L=java3d-interest
>
>   Yes, Justin Couch wrote a very mean and nasty message, hoping I think to
> upset people, to hurt me, and promote his company and professional
> standing,
> and after reading your reply --- I think --- he succeeded in getting
> people upset.
>
>   Justin called it spam, it is not spam, what he wrote is not true.
>
>   Please, this is  JavaOne week ... we are suppost to be happy & help
> each other
> and not be mean and try to exclude people.
>
>   Want to relax ?  I have some Java Games :
>
>   http://www.frontiernet.net/~imaging/java_games.html
>
>   I do Java3d ... you can see ( pictures & a movie of my Java3d ) ;
>
>   http://www.frontiernet.net/~imaging/java3d_and_vrml.html
>
>    I'm not selling anything.
>
>     My posts are * NOT * off topic.
>
>     " Spam " is off-topic posts where someone is trying to sell something.
>
>      My posts are neither.
>
>    I do 3d with Java ( Java 1.1 and & Java3d ) and try to use the
> best OOPS techniques so I can have my programs run with the
> same data files on both on a Desktop PC an on the recently
> announced Java capable phones & PDAs show at JavaOne today.
>
>   I am NOT an outsider ... I don't ask a lot questions and report a lot
> of bugs.
> Normally when I encounter a programming problem I consult my
> books, and pound away at it, so I don't post questions & complaints.
>
>   Java3d created this movie with _ my_  program & the VRML Loaders:
>
>   http://home.rochester.rr.com/javajava/media/darts_animation_movie.mov
>
>   using this VRML file ...
>
> http://www.frontiernet.net/~imaging/shout3d/models/H-Anim/darts_animation_VRML.wrl
>
>   I am a Java Developer, that what I like, that's what I do.
>
> Mona, please link to my page from your 'links' page:
>   http://www-ncmir.ucsd.edu/~mona/personal/bookmark/programming.html
>
>   Lots of people link to me ... go to google and search on my name ...
> or search for things like: Java 3d human animation modeling interactive
> program applet
>
>   If you do Java3d, we have common interests & common goals.
>
>   Don't let Justin Couch's and Matthew Beitler's mean & cruel words
> hurt me more than they already have.
>
>   I'm hoping that some kind sole at Sun could read Justin's post
> and comment on whether the language and tone is appropriate ...
> and someone from the University of Pen would comment if
> Beitlers post is appropriate and consistant with that schools rules
> of moral conduct.
>
>   I am deeply offended by the cruel and sadistic things that have
> been posted about me on these lists, and I am sad that no one
> has been willing to stand up and say what should be obvious:
> that Justin Couch's comments are unprofessional, unacceptable,
> unwanted and harmful to this community, not just me, but to you too.
>
>   It's JavaOne week, we are Java Developers, I offer you my friendship.
>
>   Sincerely,
>
>    -- Paul,  Java Developer & Web Animator.
>   -------------------------------------------
> " Imaging the Imagined: Modeling with Math a Keyboard "
>
> Mona Wong wrote:
>
> >>> I feel like I'm listening to a commercial... BTW, what are you selling?
> >>> The email looks a LOT like all the other spam I get.
> >>
> >> [ mean words deleted ]
> >>
> >> Just ignore him. Whatever he's on, I'd like some because its pretty
> >> fscking obvious that he's living in a fantasy land
> >
> >
> >      Can't we just remove this guy from the mailing list?  Please?!
> >
> > Mona
>
>   Please, could you be a little more tolerant.  Please ?!
>
>   ... and I don't live in fantasy land ...  it's another of Jason's mean
> spirited lies.
>
>   but the Sharp PDA built to run 3d with Java and Linux
> is a dream come true ... it something I've been waiting for, and
> preparing for.
>
>   My Java3d programs ... the Dart's Player Movie ( above ) ...
> it plays as a game in a web page ... and by Christmas I plan on
> having my Java Darts Player Game Playing in a my own PDA,
> and having the my chess player networked, playing on the web.
>
> ... and no, I don't work for Sharp, or sell them, or own Sharp stock.
>
>   Me, I'm a guy that does Java.
>
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