"P. Flavin" wrote:
>    Sun's Rick Goldberg _ * DID *_ write the origianl VRML Loaders
>
>   which I have used ( very happily )  since January, 2000 ...
>
>   Java3d & H-Anim VRML with PROTOs, Interpolators, Sensors, Gestures ....
>
>   Cindy B.'s Nancy with Walk / Run / Jump / Stand ... Java3d and Shout3d.
>
>   Alan Hudson removed Rick Goldberg's (and Sun's) credit
> so people might believe that this is lie is true:
>

>From the project web pages of Xj3D:

"The Xj3D browser is an Open Source project to develop a spec-complaint
implementation of the X3D and VRML97
specifications. It was started with a donation of source from Sun
Microsystems in 1998 and today is a project of the Web3D consortium's
source task group."

Please explain how I have removed Rick Goldbergs(and Sun's) credit from
the project?  Sun's involvement is listed within the first 2 sentanaces
of the page.

> |  We maintain our lead in networks and realtime 3D
> |   by developing exciting and engaging applications and
> |   content. Our projects include next generation 3D web
> |   applications, VR-based entertainment, and highly intuitive
> |   3D authoring applications.
> |
>   http://www.yumetech.com/about.html
>
>   According to the revised (false) history Justin Couch & Alan Hudson
> of Yumetech,  THEY gave Web3d.org VRML Loaders for Java3d
> in the mid 2001:  It is a lie, a self serving lie.
>

You are now qouting from our company pages, not the Open Source project
pages.  Of course we mention our involvement in the project, we have
spent 5 months working on it.  Where have we misrepresented ourselves?

> It is unethical for Yumtech ( Justin Couch and Alan Hudson ) to
> remove the credit of Sun's contribution and then slander
> someone ( me ) ... threaten someone ( me ) ... insult someone with
> vulgarities ( me ) and then attempt to shut someone ( me ) out the groups
> ( Java3d & Web3d's H-Anim  )
>

Its amazing that any comments about you have surfaced as most of us have
your posts on permanent killfile.  I don't find your posts useful so I
don't read them.  But when they start mentioning web3d consrtium
activites and what they imply that means I must read them, especially
when you start using a project dear to me as support for some viewpoint.
After those statements reach the level of open accusations about theft,
well you can expect vigorous replies.

I would like to appolgize for the langauge used and I notice that Justin
has done the same.  I have just returned from JavaOne so this is the
first I have read of the matter. Beyond that I beleive what Justin has
posted is accurate and I will let him speak for himself, brisk manner
and all.

--
Alan Hudson
President: Yumetech, Inc.                      http://www.yumetech.com/
Web3D Open Source Chair        http://www.web3d.org/TaskGroups/source/

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