Len, Human Animation is solved, with H-Anim & Java.
I'm sorry, I thought I had posted that fact to:
1) www-vrml,
2) h-anim,
3) java3d-interest
4) comp.lang.java.3d, comp.lang.vrml, comp.lang.java.programmer
Perhaps you had mislead by Aaron Walsh's "Core Web3d"
book or comments from Justin Couch or some people funded
by the National Science Foundation.
Len: Don't believe anything in any book from Prentice Hall,
anything from Aaron Walsh, or anything from anyone from the
University of Pennsylvania.
We can animate H-Anim Avatars with:
1) Java 1.1 on Windows, Linux, Macintosh: The Web.
2) Java3d with VRML Loaders from Sun.
3) Java VRML EAI: using those silly old VRML plug-in Viewers.
Pretty much anything but Windows-XP and Microsoft's WebTV.
We can do guys playing chess ( and moving chess pieces by
YOUR COMMAND ), playing darts, doing Sign Language ...
any joint, any rotation .... A-N-Y-T-H-I-N-G.
I'm try to make this clear: ANYTHING, anything, any-thing.
Anything.
Seamless Avatars: Yes.
Lift & move objects: Yes.
Networked & Interactive: Yes.
Naked women: Yes.
Facial animation: Yes.
Anything?: Yes.
And yes, H-Anim was closed to non-members.
Moron(s) from the National Science Foundation
were posting messages that embarrassed both themselves
and their managers and the people at the University of Pennsylvania
didn't want people like you to know that morons were managing
and mismanaging millions of dollars of your tax money.
I won't mention any names, but:
http://www.vrml.org/WorkingGroups/h-anim/hypermail/2001/0209.html
http://www.vrml.org/WorkingGroups/h-anim/hypermail/2001/0210.html
http://www.vrml.org/WorkingGroups/h-anim/hypermail/2001/0211.html
http://www.vrml.org/WorkingGroups/h-anim/hypermail/2001/0212.html
http://www.vrml.org/WorkingGroups/h-anim/hypermail/2001/0213.html
http://www.vrml.org/WorkingGroups/h-anim/hypermail/2001/0214.html
If people at the National Science Foundation are too stupid
to understand e-mail, then obvioulsy Web3d has to take
prompt action to protect them from their own stupidly,
unfortunately they are still wasting your tax money.
Len, we can do H-Anim with Java, here is the proof:
H-Anim with Java3d and the VRML Loaders from Sun
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http://www.frontiernet.net/~imaging/java3d_and_vrml.html
- make movies, topless women from Nurbs, Darts Player.
Web3d H-Anim : Chess, Darts, Signing, Seamless (win-lin-mac)
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http://www.frontiernet.net/~imaging/H-Anim_Avatars.html
People Poser: H-Anim with the silly old VRML plug-ins
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http://www.frontiernet.net/~imaging/HAnimPoser.html
Gait Analysis from Motion Capture Data with Ally McBeal
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http://www.frontiernet.net/~imaging/gait_model.html
I really don't want to just self-promote: I would include
a link to something from Aaron Walsh's "Core Web3d"
book ... but that book says none of us can do the stuff above
and ( obviously ) his book & his site have nothing usefull
about current Web3d human animation technologies :
If anyone has purchased that book: return it as defective.
The book clearly states that the book and web site
accurately reflect current technology:
Not true, that statement is legally binding and false
and grounds for returning it.
Len, I've followed your HumanML stuff and I didn't
find it usefull to what I was doing at the time ...
what you're doing may be usefull, but it didn't solve
any problem I was encountering, and I've been working
on a program to generate VRML for Java3d and also
to display it on devices that don't support Java3d or
the VRML plug-in viewers: to make VRML ubiquitous.
If you have a need for Human Animatino of H-Anim
Avatars let me know ... I consider it a solved problem.
Didn't you see Shrek ... Don't you love Linux !
Yes, Shrek was brought to you by Linux ...
Linux & SGI, no plug-in was used.
Java3d runs on:
* Windows, Linux, SGI Irix, IBM AUX, Solaris & others.
Len, be a man, Join Us, VRML animation with Java & Java3d.
Java does animation:
On the Web, In Phones, in PDAs, on Set-Top Boxes:
Anywhere ... 'xcpt xp & ms webtv.
VRML has lost some vetrans, Java3d is growing.
Look, Learn:
http://archives.java.sun.com/cgi-bin/wa?A1=ind0108&L=java3d-interest
Len: Java is the #1 teaching language & will overake C/C++ next year.
The VRML Loaders from Sun lets students Load & Run H-Anim Avatars.
For Chistmas you can get a PDA with built in hardware support for
3d animation running Linux & Java from Sharp ...
do H-Anim Human Animation: games & educational stuff,
and put it your pocket, cell phone apps ... the future, has arrived.
You can do ... anything ...
-- Paul, Java Developer & Web Animator.
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"Imaging the Imagined: Modeling with Math & a Keyboard"
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~ ~ ~ RANT ~ ~ ~ about the "Core Web3d" book ~ ~ ~
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cc: Prentice Hall ( Please Respond! Correct your errors! )
Be advised the "Core Web3d" book from Prentice Hall
by Aaron Walsh is innacurate and falsely states that
the VRML Loaders from Sun can't be used to animate
Web3d's H-Anim Avatars ... they can ...
Prentice Hall & Aaron Walsh have been advised of the
error in the book and their web site and have not
corrected their error, Aaron Walsh and Prentice Hall
should not be considered to be reliable sources of
information, their false statements does harm to
those of us working with VRML, H-Anim, & Java3d.
VRML Loaders for Java3d, Moral Failures & Aaron Walsh
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http://www.web3d.org/WorkingGroups/web3d-mpeg/hypermail/2001/0159.html
http://www.web3d.org/WorkingGroups/web3d-mpeg/hypermail/2001/0175.html
Prentice Hall: -P-L-E-A-S-E-, correct the errors, bad books
-------------- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ are bad for business: yours & ours.
We need and deserve better books and don't like being
treated like were a bunch of dummies from book of the
month hack authors.
ActiveX Month: make it fail with Netscape and add security problems:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/stores/detail/-/books/0764500104/excerpt/ref
Prentice Hall: Drink Your Ink, You Lose, Right Makes Might.
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