Ok, I've run into a lot of problems with the new SDK...

1) I did try to convert my applet HTML page with the new 1.3.1_01a
HTMLConveter and it claims that no changes are needed or were made to the
HTML page containing my applet tag.  Since HTMLConverter doesn't seem to
work, I can't tell browsers to use the new plugin.

2) I had to install the Java 3d runtime stuff by hand (well duh because I'm
not getting the latest plugin because HTMLConverter doesn't work) so I still
get the same wedging behavior in both Netscape 6.1 and IE 6.0.

There *is* a new plugin to go along with the new SDK isn't there?  That
running HTMLConveter points to?  And how do I get HTMLConverter to work?

-- John

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kyle McDonald - Eagle CAD [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 12:03 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [JAVA3D] jdk1.3.1_01a, IE5 and Netscape 6.1
>
>
> John Nelson wrote:
>
> > Well I guess I'm not being very clear here.  Let's say I'm an applet
> > developer and the only operating system that I have is Linux.
> The new SDK
> > isn't available for Linux, only Windows and since it's an SDK,
> the upgrade
> > is on the developer side NOT the runtime plugin downloaded by the user.
> >
> > Therefore as a Linux applet developer, I can't use it.
> >
> > And this is really WEIRD considering that Java is "develop once, use
> > anywhere"... but Linux and Solaris folks don't even get the
> "develop once"
> > part.  :-)  Of course I'm assuming that parallel SDK's for
> Linux, Solaris,
> > etc will be available at some point in time.
> >
> > Or am I still missing something?
> >
> > -- John
>
>
>       John,
>
>       As far as I know, the 'a' in 1.3.1_01a is probably some bug
>       fix that is only needed for Windows, and maybe even only in
>       the tools that come onyl with the SDK.
>
>       However most if not all of the platforms should have a 1.3.1_01
>       version available I think. Though I doubt functionality was
>       added in _01 bug fix release either.
>
>       It's my impression that Mozilla, and Netscape 6.x both will
>       use the Java plugin for *all* applets no matter how the HTML
>       is written, because they don't have a JVM built in. I don't
>       think this is a feature that was added to the Java Plugin
>       at all. It's just how Mozilla and Netscape 6 are architected.
>
>       Netscape 4 and versions of IE have a JVM that they use for
>       the APPLET tags and therefore need another mechanism to force
>       the browser to use the plugin.
>
>       Therefore for users who are still using an older browser, if
>       you need your applet to run inside the Plugin JVM, you'll still
>       need to 'convert' your HTML. Unless you're happy with only
>       letting Netscape 6/Mozilla users at your applets :)
>
>
>       All that being said, I should note that while I do work for
>       Sun, I have really no more info on anythis than any of you do,
>       And I could be mistaken on what I've just said.
>
>                       -Kyle
>
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