Ah, the wonders of unfiltered email when travelling.... For reference to those here, the Web3D consortium board have issued an ultimatum to Flavin to shut up and do something constructive or be banned from all their lists, not just some of them as he is now.
"P. Flavin" wrote: > This is with the Sun VRML Loaders and > not the 'new' loaders which don't support > animation of the H-Anim Joints with PROTOs. So Paul, are you so against the new code that you haven't actually looked at the code in, oh, say the last 4 months? Early Sept at least we had fully-compliant PROTO support, which the old code never did. H-anim is our test code for proto support. Your demonstration code does not, and nor will Sun's code. If Sun's code never supported Javascript, how could they support H-anim animations? Why are you deliberately lying to this and many other lists & newsgroups when you say it does? You purposefully: - Altered the Nancy demonstration file that contained 3Name3D's (now owned by Computer Associates) copyrights and removed them, replacing them with your own or leaving them out all-together (seems to change each time I download the file). - Removed large sections of the file that would never load with Sun's loader. Basically you stripped the file to its barest minimum that the codebase could support. - In order to "claim" that Sun's code would support nancy/H-anim, you then had to steal the application from UPenn (if you didn't, your screenshots look awfully familiar and there is no attribution of copyright to UPenn). This application does not support H-anim animation - it provides it's own animation system that is written in Java/Java3D, *not* VRML. (Matt can correct me if I'm wrong, but on face value looking at the two websites, that's what I see). - You lie and make public slanderous statements about members of various communities in places where they are never able to defend themselves. In doing research I found you making posts about myself and Alan Hudson in animation newsgroups and email-lists that we never have, and probably never will frequent. At least have the guts to invite us to respond. Oh, I'm sorry, but you wouldn't be able to deal with that would you? You can't even respond to my posts on various lists where I refute your statements. You don't even show up to public meetings/conferences on these very topics to defend and promote your version of reality. If you truly believed in these statements, _someone_ out of the hundreds I know in Java, 3D and VRML communities would have met you face to face. Instead, it is just some faceless raving lunatic behind an email alias. So brave aren't you! Cowardly idiot. > Aaron Walsh ( falsely ) claimed that you can't > animate H-Anim Avatars with Java3d and Justin > Couch ( falsely ) claimed you can't animate > H-Anim Avatars with Java3d, and the Prentice > Hall book ( falsely ) Get your bloody facts straight looser. We have never claimed that you can't animate it with Java3D. What we have claimed, and will continue to do so, is that you cannot animate H-anim with Sun's VRML Loader as a runtime system. Use Sun's loader as a static geometry loader and you can do (almost) anything with the geometry - including animating using custom code in your application. Sun's loader does not support loading H-anim 1.1 compliant avatars. Will it load H-anim 2K? - Not a chance. It barely loads 1.0 compliant avatars - if you use EXTERNPROTOs, it cannot load the avatars. If you want to use the Sun loader as a full VRML runtime system, that loader will never, ever support H-anim. Why? Java based scripting was dodgy at best, Javascript/ECMAScript is not supported. Most H-anim characters use Javascript. If the loader did support something more useful, why don't your screenshots show anything _other_ than Nancy? Maybe because that is the only avatar you could ever get to work, and then only after carefully hand-editing the file to remove/modify anything that might crash the loader. Hmmm... 7000 lines down to 2000. Doesn't sound like a few small tweaks to me. > that someone in the National Science Foundation > or working with National Science Foundation would > help refute these false statments which Maybe the reason they don't respond is because they think you are an idiot too? Maybe that is why Prentice Hall ignore you too? Hey, maybe you and Zahid (from the EJB/XML lists and sometime Advanced-Java) should get together and have a little chat about how wrong the world is and that everyone is out to get you.... With any luck, the two of you shall be bannished to obscurity soon. > I've done Finger Spelling of H-Anim Avatars in Linux > and you can too. I think finger painting is more like it. BTW, Did I tell you that your screenshots look highly professional? Oh, and I haven't found anyone yet that can get your linux apps to actually run, mainly just core dumps. When you can rationally debate points raised, maybe then we might start treating you with some respect. Until then, you are just a psychotic maniac. And remember, just because everyone is out to get you, they will.... -- Justin Couch http://www.vlc.com.au/~justin/ Freelance Java Consultant http://www.yumetech.com/ Author, Java 3D FAQ Maintainer http://www.j3d.org/ ------------------------------------------------------------------- "Humanism is dead. Animals think, feel; so do machines now. Neither man nor woman is the measure of all things. Every organism processes data according to its domain, its environment; you, with all your brains, would be useless in a mouse's universe..." - Greg Bear, Slant ------------------------------------------------------------------- =========================================================================== To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "signoff JAVA3D-INTEREST". For general help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "help".
