Jacob Marner, you've written something

that is  __ NOT __  true about Java ...


  You can use Java 1.2, Java3d & the Sun VRML Loaders

  for Web Animations ...


| Mini FAQ
|
| Can I use 6DX for Java in a Java applet?
|
| No you cannot. 6DX for Java runs only in Java application.
|
| This is mostly due to the fact that 6DX for Java needs certain
| Java 1.2 features and all browsers I know (including MS IE 5.5)
| only supports Java 1.1.
|
  http://www.rolemaker.dk/JWindows/6DX/index.htm


That's _ NOT _ true.  Java 1.2 works in browser, I do it every day.

You can do Java 1.2 Applets in a Web Browser with Java3d,
with VRML and be portable:


Java Games with Java3d & the  Sun VRML Loaders
----------------------------------------------
http://www.frontiernet.net/~imaging/games_with_java3d.html
http://www.frontiernet.net/~imaging/java3d_and_vrml.html


| To be allowed to distribute applications or games made with
| 6DX you must purchase a full license. A license comes at
| US$195 per project programmer, at US$1500 for a license
| for all programmers in the same company at the same
| geographical location, or at US$3500
|
  http://www.eldermage.com/6dx_introduction.htm

  Jacob, more portable, more economical solutions exist with Java.

  That solution will fail on Linux, Solaris, and high
end graphics Unix workstations from Sun, IBM, HP & SGI.


Jacob Marner wrote:
 >
> Why does this guy keep posting long spam posts on this
> mailing list?
 >
> And if only he would speak in full sentences.
 >
> I am in favor of banning...
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "P. Flavin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 17:01
> Subject: [JAVA3D] Multi-User Worlds & Networking with 3d clients: Portability
> gives Economy.
>
>
>>  VRML 3d Multi-User Networked Worlds
>>  -----------------------------------
>>   -  Free Source Available:  Java, naturally
>
> ... and so on
>
http://swjscmail1.java.sun.com/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0112&L=java3d-interest&P=44202


  Perhaps you're upset that your expensive, non-portable
solution could be replaced by a better, more portable,
Java solution that are not 'Windows Only'.

Java is portable, your expensive solution is not.

Java Games with Java3d & the  Sun VRML Loaders
----------------------------------------------
http://www.frontiernet.net/~imaging/games_with_java3d.html
http://www.frontiernet.net/~imaging/java3d_and_vrml.html

| Note: Please note that you cannot use 6DX to make
| Java applets for use in popular browsers, since
| we require the use of the Java 2 platform.
|
| Contemporary browsers only support Java v1.1.
|
| The Java interface is intended for use outside browsers.
|
  http://www.eldermage.com/6dx_introduction.htm

  I use Mozilla 0.9.8 on Linux and my Java applets
work fine in the browser.

  What you wrote is not true.

  Your solution is a 'Windows Only' solution that
will fail on Linux and platforms used by increasing
numbers of computer animation professionals.

|
| Quit posting irrelevant mails to all sorts of forums.
|
| Understand that we don't care. Go away.
| You really annoy a lot of people.
|
| And we hate you for repeatedly accusing people
| of lying.
|
| Don't reply to this message. Just stay away.
|
| Jacob Marner [ wrote today ]
|

  Hmm, I gave answers to two questions in one message.

  The questions were about Sun's Fly Through Demo and
the NCSA VRML Loaders, I've used both, and I
answered both questions, as you can see:

http://swjscmail1.java.sun.com/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0202&L=java3d-interest&P=47349
http://archives.java.sun.com/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0202&L=java3d-interest&P=46625
http://archives.java.sun.com/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0202&L=java3d-interest&P=46625

  An Honest full disclosure from you would include
that you're trying to sell a prodcut that fails to
run in a browser as 'proper' ( portable ) Java can,
which I pointed out, which could be more distressing
to you then simply a long post or long sentences or
sentences that end like this ...


You're not honest on your web site,
you're not honest in your e-mail to me and
you're upset.

  Try the truth: it will set you free.

  Try writing portable Java: it will set you free.

  Of course it upsets you when someone honestly
writes you can run Java3d in a browser when
you're trying to __ SELL __ a product with a
competing solution that CANNOT.

  And to accuse some of "spamming" when you're
trying to sell ( for a rather high price )
something that can be done better with Portable
Java ...  To accuse someone of spamming when the
problem is of your own making is childish,
unprofessional, and ineffective (and not uncommon).

  Try the truth, try portable Java.

  Do both, and you'll have portable code & happiness.

  You've done neither: naturally you're upset.

  That's your problem, and you can fix it. Good Luck.

  -- Paul,  Java Developer & Web Animator
  -----------------------------------------------------
"Imaging the Imagined: Modeling with Math & a Keyboard"


The complaint of spamming was in reply to this post:

|
|  VRML 3d Multi-User Networked Worlds
| -----------------------------------
| - Free Source Available: Java, naturally.
| -- ( Free Java Source helps Newbies & Old Pros ... )
|
| http://www.geometrek.com/products/deepmatrix.html
http://croftsoft.com/portfolio/tag3d/ ( Java3d )
http://www.cs.vu.nl/~eliens/online/%40share/archive/scripties/fedozzi/
http://directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Programming/Languages/Java/Virtual_Worlds/
|
http://swjscmail1.java.sun.com/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0112&L=java3d-interest&P=43928

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