Hi all,

As far as I can tell the Java Plugin totally replaces any JVM that
currently exists in IE. Therefore by just using the <applet> tag the
Java Plugin will be used. This works on Win98, 2000 Pro and XP. I'm
pretty sure this is true for JRE/JDK 1.3 (at some point in time, 1.3.1+
maybe) and 1.4.

As far as I can tell this totally replaces the need for the
HTMLConverter.

You can tell is the SUN JRE is being used because as the applet is being
loaded a JProgressBar shows the downloading of classes/jars, which
doesn't happen with the Microsoft JVM.

I don't know exactly what Sun intended the process to be to detect
whether the Sun Plugin is installed, but I would probably detect Java
using Javascript and/or use a Java 1.1 compliant applet that queries
itself as to what version of Java is being used and then take the
appropriate action to install the Sun JRE or run your applet.

For any serious applet or any applet that is going to have a long
development I would definitely suggest using webstart. It gives you
total control over what JRE is to be used, what standard extensions will
be used, what native libraries will be used, what permissions if any the
applet will need, plus many more features. And webstart has been
included in the Sun JRE since 1.2.? and can be installed separately for
other versions.

Please correct any mistakes I may have made.

Hope this helps,
Dave.




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Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 8:13 AM
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Subject: Re: [JAVA3D] question on feasibility of Java3D applet on XP

I have tried using HTMLConverter from Sun Microsystem's page, however,
I never made my Swing applet working.  But I hard coded the Object tags
in the applet inside my JSP, it worked perfect.  Plug-in takes a while,
later on the applet runs fast enough.

Seems to me we have to plug-in the whole JVM on IE running on XP.
I don't know if the jit.dll under \\WINNT\system32 in Windows2000 is the
JVM
used by IE or not.  If it is, will the one plugged into XP be the
similar
location?

Lee

At 02:48 PM 2/28/2002 -0600, you wrote:
>But if you as a provider of a webpage need to run a Java 2 applet and
>you don't use the HTMLConverter then the client's browser would have no
>way to know if it has the correct VM or not.  Perhaps the 1.4 "Plugin"
>can tweak IE and Netscape 6 such that a Java 2 VM is ALWAYS run
>(actually I believe Netscape 6 only uses Java 2), but at least with
>Netscape 4.7 it runs Java 1.1 if you use an applet tag.  Using the
>HTMLConverter is what tells the browser to use Java 2 (1.2,1.3,1.4).
>
>Am I incorrect?  Has something changed?
>
>- John Wright
>Starfire Research
>
>Jacob Marner wrote:
> >
> > The HTML Converter isn't needed anymore. If you use the latest
> > versions of the Sun Java plug-in (1.4, possibly also 1.3) that
plug-in
> > is always used instead of the built-in browser Java (unless you
disable
> > the plug-in in the control panel of course). This is how it works
for
> > me anyway.
> >
> > Jacob Marner
> >
> > > Lee,
> > >
> > > My understanding is that you use the HTMLConverter to make your
webpage
> > > call for Sun's Plug-in which then runs Sun's VM, hence allowing
Java
> > > Applets to run on the client's machine (after of course they
download
> > > and install the JRE).
> > >
> > > - John Wright
> > > Starfire Research
> > >
> > > Lee Zhou wrote:
> > > >
> > > > -Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Maybe this question has been asked before.  But I missed the
> answer.  Could
> > > > someone
> > > > give me an answer on feasibility of running Java applet, 2D or
3D,
> in IE of
> > > > XP platform?
> > > >
> > > > Because XP does not include a JVM, it raises a concern on
running
> Java3D
> > > > applet on IE browser on XP platform.
> > > > How does Sun Microsystem solve this problem?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > > Lee
> > > > Java developer
> > > >
> > > >
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