Hi, This is for Paul Pantera or anyone from Sun: Any chance you could provide <something> saying you are still working on the "auto-install" ? A date will be great, a deadline would be helpful, a general vicinity would be appreciated, a no-later-than-September will be fine and a "Please continue being patient" will also do.
Thanx, Asaf. P.S, Godlets from "J3d": The process described in Paul's http://www.j3d.org/tutorials/quick_fix/auto_install.html article apparently doesn't work (as Daniel Selman says in his book <Thanx Daniel>), and is illegal anyhow, so why publish it, and why tell everybody here on the list to try it? > Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 08:32:29 -0400 > From: "J. Lee Dixon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [JAVA3D] Signed auto-installation JAR from Sun > > To me this means that nobody (except for some serious pros with reverse IP > lookup) are deploying their Java3D apps on the web with auto-installation. > Instead, they *must* be sending users to the Java3D download URL... even > getting the JavaVM auto-install from the applet page would not help because > if they get that far, they will get Java without Java3D and 'class not > found' exceptions will ensue. Thus, they must be sending users to the Java > download URL as well. Yes, it's very difficult to deploy web-based Java 3D apps right now. That's one of the biggest complaints we get. > > Seems to me that the auto-install features of Java 1.3 are being wasted. > Are other ppl dealing with this using Java WebStart? I keep hearing about > it but have not looked at it closely. > We are working on supporting Java Web Start as well as Java Plug-In auto install. Both will be available at the same time. You can't do Java Web Start support yourself either, for the same reason (licensing/legal issues). We have everything working in the lab and it's very cool. We are waiting on the remaining pieces from groups withing Javasoft, and when everything's ready, we'll be the first optional package available for auto-download. -Paul > Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 08:32:29 -0400 > From: "J. Lee Dixon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [JAVA3D] Signed auto-installation JAR from Sun > Comments: To: Paul Pantera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To me this means that nobody (except for some serious pros with reverse IP > lookup) are deploying their Java3D apps on the web with auto-installation. > Instead, they *must* be sending users to the Java3D download URL... even > getting the JavaVM auto-install from the applet page would not help because > if they get that far, they will get Java without Java3D and 'class not > found' exceptions will ensue. Thus, they must be sending users to the Java > download URL as well. > > Seems to me that the auto-install features of Java 1.3 are being wasted. > Are other ppl dealing with this using Java WebStart? I keep hearing about > it but have not looked at it closely. > > -Lee > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Paul Pantera [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 4:13 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [JAVA3D] Signed auto-installation JAR from Sun > > > > > > Not ready yet. Still working with Javasoft to get the details > > worked out. We will be the first optional package supported > > when it is released. We are not giving out any hard dates at > > this time. We appreciate your patience. > > > > -Paul > > > > > Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > > Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 16:02:32 -0400 > > > From: "J. Lee Dixon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Subject: [JAVA3D] Signed auto-installation JAR from Sun > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Well, I've been away from Java3D for a *long* time and am > > back for a 2 week > > > stint. > > > Earlier this year, Sun said they had legal issues trying to > > make a signed > > > auto-installation available from a public URL. Has this > > happened yet? If > > > so, what is the URL? If not, why not? > > > > > > I remember this because I made a note on one of the J3D.org pages > > > (http://www.j3d.org/tutorials/quick_fix/auto_install.html) > > saying it would > > > be available by June. > > > > > > I know that I do not want to make the auto-install JAR > > available from my > > > website because I can't deal with the reverse-IP lookup > > needed for the > > > export restrictions. > > > > > > -Lee > > > > > > J. 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