Although this is off-topic, I would concur that Together is a very nice tool
that I use daily for my Java development. I used the free version to try it
out, then bought the commercial product. I often have Together and NetBeans
open at the same time, using Together to get a good "Design" view, and
NetBeans as the IDE. I would recommend the Together community edition as a
great way to get started using UML for design.

I know other developers who don't really "Design", they just code as they
go. I think personally that this is a mistake, although it depends on the
purpose of the code - is it a throw away or single purpose code, or are your
objects really more general and applicable to problems other than the one
you are working on now? If you want to start to re-use code, a UML tool like
Together or Rational Rose (which I tried and liked as well) combined with
some sort of formal design process (even if you ignore parts of it now and
then) really helps.

For me, UML is not an end in itself, it just helps me recognize commonality,
and what the relationships are between my problem domain classes and
interfaces.

My two cents, sorry about being off-topic.
Matt Pierce

-----Original Message-----
From: Georg Rehfeld [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 10:43 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [JAVA3D] regarding UML and JAVA


Hi Sumit,

> I have question for everyone. Is any body using UML and
> rational Rose tool to design J2EE project. If yes, any
> suggestions to learn more about it.

First, you asked the wrong list. This list discusses the Java 3D
API, not J2EE.

I would highly recommend Together instead of Rational Rose, see
http://www.oisoft.com/produkte/together/index.htm. They have a
free 'Community Edition' with enough features to do essential
UML diagramming. One nice thing with Together is: it works
completely on the java sources, there is no external repository.
In practice this means: point it to some existing java source and
it produces UML class/package diagrams from it. See for yourself.
They have enough tutorial material to get you kicked off.

regards

Georg
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