Hi Josh ... for information on where to ask about Yumetech.com's loaders

that information has been posted before, and about both VRML Loaders
Working

you can go here:

VRML Loaders Working: Nasa uses the Sun VRML Loaders !
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http://www.frontiernet.net/~imaging/vrml_loaders_working.html


the Dark Lord Himself posted where your question belongs


( and that information is available from the URL above,
  and an extract for you is below ):

 Justin Couch of Yumetech.com wrote:
 |
 |  BTW, ... posts explicitly about Xj3D should really be
 |  posted to the Web3D Consortiums Source code list
 |  rather than here [ on Sun's Java3d-interest list ] ...
 |

http://archives.java.sun.com/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0210&L=java3d-interest&P=29172
<http://archives.java.sun.com/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0210&L=java3d-interest&P=29172>


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You may want to read some posts to the web3d.org's Source mailing list, including one from the Sun employee who wrote a major portion of Sun's Loaders:

| Basically you are welcome to the code,
| so long as you don't use it in a manner disparaging
| to my employers, or myself I guess.
|
| That could include using the name to bash
| one of your consortium competitors on a
| Sun reflected list if you are abusive or dishonest.
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| You are NOT entitled to use Sun's equipment and servers
| to reflect abusive language and easy to misinterperet opinions
| claimed as factual, I don't care if you are the best coder in the world

http://www.web3d.org/TaskGroups/source/hypermail/2001/0591.html


Justin Couch of Yumetech.com wrote: | | > | > which I have used ( very happily ) since January, 2000 ... | > | > Java3d & H-Anim VRML with PROTOs, Interpolators, Sensors, Gestures .... | | | Hey, what sort of crack are you on ? | | That codebase didn't even support protos let alone H-anim. | | ... You're bullshitting again. | |

http://archives.java.sun.com/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0106&L=java3d-interest&P=R31475
<http://archives.java.sun.com/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0106&L=java3d-interest&P=R31475>


| [ Rick Goldberg wrote ] > This is false. | [ Rick Goldberg wrote ] > | [ Rick Goldberg wrote ] > The code did support protos before you touched it. | [ Rick Goldberg wrote ] > | [ Rick Goldberg wrote ] > Scripting support was by the letter of the law, | [ Rick Goldberg wrote ] > and highly functional. | | [ Justin Couch wrote ] That's crap. ... | [ Justin Couch wrote ] | [ Justin Couch wrote ] I'm relying purely on reports from Alan | [ Justin Couch wrote ] about what did and didn't work. | http://www.web3d.org/TaskGroups/source/hypermail/2001/0589.html


Hi everyone!

Firstly, I apologize if this is a FAQ, but I did search the archives a
bit before I composed this.

Second: is there any way to access the j3d or x3d data structures via
the DOM APIs?  If not, is there any work being done or talk about work
being done in that area?  If not - jeepers, why not?

I realize that Paul Flavin will tell me that the Sun VRML loaders will
solve all my problems, but I was wondering if anyone ELSE had any
information on the subject.

Thanks,

josh


and yes the U.S. Navy's Don Brutzman is aware of the criminal fraud
of Justin Couch & Alan Hudson and the false & fraudulent and uncorrected
statements in the unreliable Prentice-Hall books by Aaron Walsh which
sever your Dark Lord.


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Holger Grahn wrote:
/> /
/> Hi folks/
/> /
/> I think the community should engage here./
/> [...]/
/> Anyway this discussions leaves a very bad taste,/
/> given that Rick is a person I respect very much./
/> /
/> -- Holger/

Thanks for posting Holger, I also agree with your sentiments above.

I would hope that we could give appropriate credit to all contributors.
Credits are a list that should always grow and never shrink. There are
many examples, a good one is "Gnu's Who" at
http://www.gnu.org/people/people.html

I doubt there is any contribution that is so small that it is unimportant.
Every person who studies and makes a suggestion or contributes code is
helping the common cause.

I know firsthand that Rick did tons of work in the code design,
architecture
and implementation, notably over an extended period of time when there were
few other participants. His work continues to have a major impact on
X3D/VRML strategies and design.

It's also obvious from ongoing activity and recent demonstrations that
Justin, Alan and others have done innovative new work on designing and
implementing a newer codebase. Everyone should get lots of credit for
these major individual contributions and overall souce group progress -
I'm very grateful, and expect that others probably are too. Certainly
there is a _lot_ of interest in the SDK CDs containing it: we gave away
over 200 copies this week (and I faxed Anders a list of 40 more requests).

Perhaps the currently evolving codebase should be considered as working
up to a version 2.0. For comparison, it took us three tries (meaning a
fully different version 3.0) to get the Scene Authoring Interface (SAI)
to a implementable, workable state.
http://www.web3d.org/TaskGroups/x3d/sai/SceneAuthoringInterface.html

I offer my thanks to each of you. Alan, as source group chair, no doubt
you are the right person to encourage and build consensus around a globally
positive way that documents proper credit for everyone. Please let us know
how anyone might help further. Again thanks.

all the best, Don

-- Don Brutzman Naval Postgraduate School, Code UW/Br Root 200 work
831.656.2149 Monterey California 93943-5000 USA fax 831.656.3679 Virtual
worlds/underwater robots/Internet http://web.nps.navy.mil/~brutzman
<http://web.nps.navy.mil/%7Ebrutzman>

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Nasa uses the Sun VRML Loaders, and the Sun VRML Loaders
animate Web3d.org Finger Spelling Avatars developed with NSF funding
in a web browser, and the lies and fraud of Yumetech.com & the NIST's
Sandy Ressler harm the Deaf Children and have probably contributed
to the unecessary deaths of US and allied soldiers in Iraq & Afganistan,
but I understand, you must server your master regardless.

-- Paul, Java Developer & Web Animator
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Imaging the Imagined: Modeling with Math & Keyboard

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