Dear Florin,

Sorry if in my previous posting was not too clear. What I am looking for,and
the main point of my application, is to use Java3D to generate
animations programatically. They wouldn't be easy to implement if I would be using a 
3D modeller or even a
 scripting language embedded on a 3D modeller. I would like not only to display them 
in my application,
but also, if possible, to store them for later reuse. Also I would prefer if the format
would be some kind of standard that would allow me to tweak them later with third 
party tools or to
feed them into a raytracer. As far as can tell, besides VRML, it seems there aren't 
any good standard
3D formats that would allow for animation, and that would also keep the geometry info. 
So, more precisely,
what am I looking for is:

1) A way to export the Java3D animations generated by my application to a file format. 
As far as I can
tell, the Java3D standard classes only support loading/saving of geometry information, 
not animation
data.

2) Any 3D animation tool/modeller (free or otherwise) that would allow me to interact 
with the generated
animation, like changing camera angles.

Sorry to all if I was unable to explain precisely what I was looking for before, and I 
hope
that this posting is little bit more clear.

Artur Matos.


On Fri, 4 Apr 2003 14:19:12 +0200
Florin Herinean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> To Paul:
>
> I'm sorry Paul, but you have understood nothing !
>
> To Artur Matos:
>
> My answer was directly targeted at your specific request. I was not saying
> that you cannot make movies in java3d, all that I said is that you cannot do
> what you want, specifically:
>
> <cite>but I would like to find a solution that would allow me to post edit
> the generated animation (like changing the camera position) before creating
> an AVI/MPG file. Something like a editable animation format with the
> geometry info, that I could load into a scene editor and further tweak the
> animation and generate an MPG file afterwards. Or feed it into a raytracer
> (like POVRay) to generate better quality animations</cite>
>
> Yes, you can define animation in a vrml file, but either if you edit the
> file manually or if you use a separate tool. Editing the vrml file in a text
> editor is not what people usually want, so it's the second case, of a
> separate tool. And at that point you don't need java3d anymore because you
> already have the tool !
>
> I don't know at the moment of any java editors of vrml files supporting
> animation. Maybe I'm wrong, and Justin or Alan can corect me about that,
> they know more about vrml & xj3d.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Florin
>
> -----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: P. Flavin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 3. April 2003 17:47
> An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Betreff: Re: [JAVA3D] Best way to generate animation files (.mov) from a
> scenegraph ... or VRML
>
> ... cut ...
>
> Florin Herinean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> |
> | What you're looking for you're not finding (yet)
> | in java3d. Maybe in the future.
> |
> | You should try any of the comercial available tools
> | like 4Cinema, Maya, etc.
> |
> | Cheers,  Florin
> |
> | [ In reply to: ]
> | >
> | >
> | > [ What is ] the best way for generating animation files
> | > (like MPG or AVI) from Java3D.
> | >
> |
> http://archives.java.sun.com/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0304&L=java3d-interest&P=4680
> |
> |
> http://archives.java.sun.com/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0304&L=java3d-interest&P=5270
>
>
>   Florin, it has been done and is in the Java3d-interest list archives
>   ------- ---------------- ( see links above and below )
>
>   With the Sun VRML Loaders and the Sun Java Media Framework ( JMF )
> and the NCSA frame capture tool you can
>
>   read, render, record  VRML animation files and save the results
>   --------------------  as movie ananimations in ( .mov etc. ).
>
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