To cut down on the meta traffic on the list regarding problems with the list it would REAL helpful if the list instructions included an email address for who/what to contact in the event of a problem with the list. A while back I tried all the ways that I could think of for directing email to the list manager but they pretty much all bounced. Including the link explicietly in the instructions would be helpful. --jon ____________________ Peculiar Technologies ____________________ Jon Barrilleaux 3800 Lake Shore Ave. Purveyors of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oakland, CA 94610 Alternate Reality 510.444.4370 voc Augmented Simulation 510.444.0231 fax www.augsim.com and 3D Solutions ===================================================================== To subscribe/unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Java 3D Home Page: http://java.sun.com/products/java-media/3D/