But what is the question that answer is for?  Is it that there aren't enough 
easy ways to get a high-end laptop?  Or that there aren't enough choices in the 
high-end laptop market?

Alexey
2001 Honda CBR600F4i (CCS)
1992 Kawasaki EX500
http://azinger.blogspot.com
http://bsheet.sourceforge.net
http://wcollage.sourceforge.net



--- On Tue, 9/2/08, Joshua Marinacci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Joshua Marinacci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [The Java Posse] Re: Mac vs PC - $1075 premium for a comparable Mac
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 2:59 PM
> So then it seems the answer is to turn computers into a more
> consumer  
> friendly buying market. ie: reduce the number of available
> models,  
> give them better names, maximize compatibility with the
> most common  
> hardware/software/network-infrastructure/devices, then
> focus on  
> advertising a few core features that are differentiators. 
> This makes  
> the choice an easier one for consumers by effectively
> making the  
> computer a simpler choice (at least in terms of buying
> one).
> 
> Clearly Apple has done this, so the question is why
> hasn't anyone  
> else. It doesn't seem like it would be that difficult.
> 
> - J
> 
> On Sep 2, 2008, at 11:40 AM, Alexey Zinger wrote:
> 
> >
> > Coke and Pepsi have spent untold amounts of money on
> advertising and  
> > continue to be at each other's throats, both with
> their flagship  
> > brands and new ones (Gatorade vs Powerade).  But soft
> drinks are a  
> > lot simpler for the consumer to think about than
> computers.  For  
> > one, computers encompass software, hardware, and
> surrounding  
> > infrastructure (network connections, devices they
> integrate with,  
> > etc.).  And those things can change independently from
> model to  
> > model, from year to year, from place to place. 
> It's tough to nail  
> > down what features you can push on the consumer as THE
> answer to why  
> > they should pay extra, when the consumer may not
> understand it, may  
> > not care, or may be using your product or some of your
> products in a  
> > totally unexpected way.  Just think of iTunes running
> on Windows.   
> > Is it good for Apple because it brings iTunes Store
> revenue, or is  
> > it bad for them because it reduces the need for some
> people to  
> > switch brands.  Is it good for Apple
> > because it shows Windows users how different Apple
> software can be  
> > or does it detract people from Apple's products
> for the same  
> > reason?  I think the fact that Apple has to some
> extent infiltrated  
> > the hipster generation and made it a bit of a status
> symbol is quite  
> > remarkable.
> >
> > Alexey
> > 2001 Honda CBR600F4i (CCS)
> > 1992 Kawasaki EX500
> > http://azinger.blogspot.com
> > http://bsheet.sourceforge.net
> > http://wcollage.sourceforge.net
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Tue, 9/2/08, Joshua Marinacci
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Joshua Marinacci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Subject: [The Java Posse] Re: Mac vs PC - $1075
> premium for a  
> >> comparable Mac
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 1:37 PM
> >> But why is this the case?  There are plenty of
> essentially
> >> 'commodity'
> >> products that have monopolistic competition and
> don't
> >> eventually
> >> collapse to 0% margin.  Coke and Pepsi sell for
> many many
> >> times the
> >> price that pure costs would suggest.  Automobiles
> are
> >> functionally
> >> equivalent in that any given category has the same
> basic
> >> features (all
> >> 4 door sedans will carry 4 or 5 people, all pickup
> trucks
> >> will carry
> >> furniture and dirt, etc.).  And yet BMW has
> clearly figured
> >> out what
> >> things to improve in their cars that will convince
> someone
> >> to spend
> >> twice as much or more for a 4 door sedan, even
> though it
> >> doesn't cost
> >> them twice as much to produce (thus raising their
> profit
> >> margin).  So
> >> what have car and sugar water makers figured out
> that
> >> computer makers
> >> haven't? Is there something intrinsic to
> computers that
> >> resist product
> >> differentiation?  Clearly Apple (and to some
> extent Sony)
> >> have proven
> >> that it's not completely impossible.
> >>
> >> - Josh
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>>
> >>> My take on this is that most people don't
> care
> >> about those certain
> >>> ethereal features, such as "overall
> >> experience".  Maybe it makes
> >>> sense to care about that, or maybe it
> doesn't, but
> >> just like
> >>> airlines are starting to feel a new hurt of
> competing
> >> on price and
> >>> specific features alone because of the
> internet and
> >> product search
> >>> engines like Google Products/Shopping,
> it's harder
> >> and harder for
> >>> anyone to demand a higher price without an
> extra
> >> number of checkmark
> >>> to justify it.  The only other thing that
> people seem
> >> to be willing
> >>> to pay for is brand name.  Besides, no one is
> >> impressed with a fancy
> >>> laptop anymore.  Long live fancy phones! (for
> now)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> 
> 
> 

      

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