Well thats good news, I guess thats what I needed to know aswell.

Seeing how the IT world in general has advanced exponentially in the
last 8 years, you can understand why we would "expect" the changes in
the VM to change dramatically too, which is why buying an 8 year old
book initially doesnt seem like a good idea...

Bod,
Yeah I did actually think of that, it would be a perfect way of
getting to know the bytecode better. Thanks!

On Oct 4, 9:51 am, robilad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The VM spec hasn't changed a whole lot in the past 8 years.
>
> On Oct 2, 5:53 pm, "Mark Volkmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Those books are both at least eight years old. Is there anything more
> > up-to-date than those?
>
> > On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 10:43 AM, Casper Bang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > I don't think you'll find a better intro to the internals than Bill
> > > Winners "Inside the 
> > > JVM":http://www.amazon.com/Inside-Java-Virtual-Machine-Venners/dp/0071350934
> > > Either that or "Programming for the JVM":
> > >http://www.amazon.com/Programming-Java-TM-Virtual-Machine/dp/02013097...
>
> > > Both are a bit dated, but cover all the basics of instructions, stack
> > > frames etc. Some of the stuff are real eye openers, i.e. the
> > > difference between a cast and a conversion, and how closely linked the
> > > byte code and the (original) Java syntax really is.
>
> > > /Casper
>
> > > Kram wrote:
> > >> Firstly I am relatively new to Java only been developing for 2 - 3
> > >> years, which I know isnt a noobie, but not yet seasoned.
>
> > >> I really enjoyed the latest episode a lot, Ive listened to it a few
> > >> times now, and I find the lower level parts of the JVM and bytecode
> > >> very interesting.
>
> > >> Although I didnt understand all of what was said on the posse ep, I
> > >> would love to start on a educational journey to learn more about
> > >> bytecode and the JVM.
>
> > >> I was wondering if anyone out there knows of some good, recent books
> > >> that they could recommend?
>
> > >> Thanks!
> > >> Mark
>
> > --
> > R. Mark Volkmann
> > Object Computing, Inc.
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