Wow!  How can they make a marketing call with a straight face!  I
guess it wasn't a video podcast.

I recently returned from a NFJS conference and we are trying hard to
try to figure out how to get out of the Websphere-RAD stack because it
is a ball and chain.  The vendor lock in on the stack is awful.  All
the layers of $$$ to get tools to be current as of early last year is
unforgivable.

The whole podcast made me cringe and shake in anger :).
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